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10/20/13 3:33 PM
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How would his run have gone had he stayed?

He would've most likely faced Ricco, Tim and Arlovski in their primes Phone Post
10/20/13 3:33 PM
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He beats them all. Phone Post
10/20/13 3:52 PM
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46and2degrees - He beats them all. Phone Post
I was thinking the same thing actually. Ricco would've been the toughest.

Next would've been mir. We saw how that went. Then what? Maybe Rizzo rematch and we saw how that went.

Would he have held the belt till Brock? Phone Post
10/20/13 3:53 PM
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you mean if barnett didn't cheat multiple times?

10/20/13 3:57 PM
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you mean if barnett didn't cheat multiple times?

Tim cheated and got caught. Exactly like Josh

The differenceis Tim stayed

So no I don't mean cheat multiple times. I mean STAYED IN UFC Phone Post
10/20/13 3:59 PM
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Randy and he would've had a trilogy. Phone Post
10/20/13 4:01 PM
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you mean if barnett didn't cheat multiple times?

Tim cheated and got caught. Exactly like Josh

The differenceis Tim stayed

So no I don't mean cheat multiple times. I mean STAYED IN UFC Phone Post

How could he possibly get a belt which he won via cheating?

Wouldn't he have a 6 month to a year suspension and then fight a contender fight?

10/20/13 4:01 PM
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He has always had holes in his game and always seemed one step away from being in truly good shape. He was getting submitted by Crocop at the same time Mirko was getting beat by guys like Congo and Gonzaga. He was KO'd by Rizzo when Rizzo was losing to everyone. During one 12 fight stretch, Rizzo lost 7 fights.. Barnett and Severn were among his KO victories at that time.
10/20/13 4:02 PM
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you mean if barnett didn't cheat multiple times?

Tim cheated and got caught. Exactly like Josh

The differenceis Tim stayed

So no I don't mean cheat multiple times. I mean STAYED IN UFC Phone Post

How could he possibly get a belt which he won via cheating?

Wouldn't he have a 6 month to a year suspension and then fight a contender fight?

The same way Tim did Phone Post
10/20/13 4:16 PM
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Bucephalus - He has always had holes in his game and always seemed one step away from being in truly good shape. He was getting submitted by Crocop at the same time Mirko was getting beat by guys like Congo and Gonzaga. He was KO'd by Rizzo when Rizzo was losing to everyone. During one 12 fight stretch, Rizzo lost 7 fights.. Barnett and Severn were among his KO victories at that time.
What?

He fought crocop when he was in his prime. Crocop that came to UFC was a shadow of his former self.

Also Rizzo beat Barnett and then arguably Randy in the first fight. Rizzo went into a funk after that. Barnett fought Rizzo when Rizzo was in his best form.

Josh then beat Randy who had just beat Rizzo.

Given that randy dropped to lhw and ricco went into a downward spiral Everyone would've been beat by josh even with a year suspension due to cheating.

UFC hw division was pretty weak for a while. Imo josh could've held the belt till around the time Crocop came in.

That's when UFC acquired a bunch of good heavies. Werdum, JDS, Cain, Gonzaga, Carwin etc Phone Post
10/20/13 4:26 PM
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Sorry to break it to you but Josh lost to Mirko (September 10, 2006) seven months before Mirko got smashed by Gonzaga (April 21, 2007).
10/20/13 4:34 PM
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you mean if barnett didn't cheat multiple times?


None of these guys were clean. Think about it.

 

10/20/13 4:39 PM
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Josh Barnett is a talented fighter who screwed himself from achieving his full potential.
10/20/13 4:39 PM
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Josh Barnett is a talented fighter who screwed himself from achieving his full potential.
10/20/13 5:55 PM
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Bucephalus - Sorry to break it to you but Josh lost to Mirko (September 10, 2006) seven months before Mirko got smashed by Gonzaga (April 21, 2007).
Yeah the crocop that fought gonzaga and kongo is not the same fighter that won the gp.

A fighter can go from streak to slump from one fight to the next. That being said josh has been pretty consistent at being in the mix of top fighters. Phone Post
10/20/13 5:59 PM
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theshooter - Josh Barnett is a talented fighter who screwed himself from achieving his full potential.
This is true Phone Post
10/21/13 4:49 AM
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Bucephalus - Sorry to break it to you but Josh lost to Mirko (September 10, 2006) seven months before Mirko got smashed by Gonzaga (April 21, 2007).
Yeah the crocop that fought gonzaga and kongo is not the same fighter that won the gp.

A fighter can go from streak to slump from one fight to the next. That being said josh has been pretty consistent at being in the mix of top fighters. Phone Post

Yes, of course. One fight to the next.

Have a nice day.
10/21/13 7:26 AM
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Prime Josh vs Prime Ricco would've been one of the greatest fights ever IMO. Phone Post 3.0
10/21/13 7:32 AM
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Bucephalus - He has always had holes in his game and always seemed one step away from being in truly good shape. He was getting submitted by Crocop at the same time Mirko was getting beat by guys like Congo and Gonzaga. He was KO'd by Rizzo when Rizzo was losing to everyone. During one 12 fight stretch, Rizzo lost 7 fights.. Barnett and Severn were among his KO victories at that time.

This is a clear example of someone who has only looked at fights on people's records. I truly hope you're trolling
10/21/13 7:43 AM
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kingkoopa - How would his run have gone had he stayed?

He would've most likely faced Ricco, Tim and Arlovski in their primes Phone Post
Smashes all 3 easily Phone Post 3.0
10/21/13 7:50 AM
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46and2degrees -  He beats them all. Phone Post

This. He beats Ricco, Tim and Arlovski but Rizzo probably had his number back then. Barnett was chubby as hell when he fought Rizzo, then he looked good and got popped for roids..
10/21/13 7:54 AM
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Sylvia on the sauce would have ko'd him. Tim was a fucking beast before the arm break made him timid Phone Post 3.0
10/21/13 8:01 AM
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theshooter - Josh Barnett is a talented fighter who screwed himself from achieving his full potential.
He's currently climbing the UFC rankings and with a win vs Brown who knows? Wouldn't count him out just yet. Phone Post
10/21/13 8:16 AM
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Better question would be how he would do against Couture without PED's. Phone Post 3.0
10/21/13 8:28 AM
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Bucephalus - Sorry to break it to you but Josh lost to Mirko (September 10, 2006) seven months before Mirko got smashed by Gonzaga (April 21, 2007).

Correct me if I am wrong.

Josh just fought a 15-minute war against Big Nog.

Crocop KO'd Wandy in short fashion, 5 minutes or so.

Crocops bout with Wandy was nowhere near as difficult as the Barnet/Nog fight.

Josh went into the bout with Crocop already severely beat up. 

Crocop was relatively fresh.

 

 


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