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After each live event, the UFC polls various members of the media to update its rankings in each weight division as well as the pound for pound rankings. 

With only a couple meaningful bouts at last weekend's Ultimate Fight Night 32, the only real movement was in the middleweight rankings:

Champion : Jon Jones

1 Alexander Gustafsson 

2 Glover Teixeira 

3 Phil Davis 

4 Rashad Evans 

5 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 

6 Chael Sonnen +1

7 Dan Henderson -1

8 Gegard Mousasi 

9 Mauricio Rua 

10 Lyoto Machida 

With his loss to Vitor Belfort, Dan Henderson moved down one spot to seventh, allowing Chael Sonnen to move up a spot without fighting. Although this bout was contested at light heavyweight, Belfort remains ranked second in the middleweight division.

 


11/12/13 11:03 PM
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Chael will be top 3 in no time at this rate. Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 11:07 PM
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Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?

Edit: I didn't know the fight was at LHW. I thought it was at MW.

I could now ask why it was at LHW in the first place, but I've probably derailed this thread enough by now.

Carry on.
11/12/13 11:09 PM
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UGCTT_FryedTakayama - Chael will be top 3 in no time at this rate. Phone Post 3.0
Lol

I'm not gonna lie, I'd rather see Chael fight than most of the top ten at 205. Not an exciting division for me right now, I'm waiting for Alex to get his hematch. Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 11:09 PM
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?

He lost at LHW, against a MW, who was also fighting at LHW.

IMO put belfort in LHW at 3, 4, or 5.

11/12/13 11:10 PM
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?
The fight was at 205 brother.

Also, using that same logic, shouldn't Vitor crack the top ten at LHW? Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 11:36 PM
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lol @ mousasi moving up every other month by default

why is lil nog 5???????????
11/12/13 11:37 PM
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?
Cause the fight was at LHW? Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 11:37 PM
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ante_up81 - lol @ mousasi moving up every other month by default

why is lil nog 5???????????
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11/12/13 11:40 PM
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What I don't get is how chael is at 6 with one win at LHW over shogun while vitor isn't even ranked after KOing Hendo who was ranked at #6. Phone Post 3.0
11/13/13 12:04 AM
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?
The fight was at 205 brother.

Also, using that same logic, shouldn't Vitor crack the top ten at LHW? Phone Post 3.0

Oh shit I honestly thought it was at middleweight.

So Vitor beats a LHW fighter to get a title shot at the MW title? Stranger things have happened, I know, but that still doesn't make sense to me.... Oh well.

And yes, if Vitor beat Henderson at LHW, he should be ranked at LHW. I think that makes perfect sense.
11/13/13 12:14 AM
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?
The fight was at 205 brother.

Also, using that same logic, shouldn't Vitor crack the top ten at LHW? Phone Post 3.0

Oh shit I honestly thought it was at middleweight.

So Vitor beats a LHW fighter to get a title shot at the MW title? Stranger things have happened, I know, but that still doesn't make sense to me.... Oh well.

And yes, if Vitor beat Henderson at LHW, he should be ranked at LHW. I think that makes perfect sense.
I think Vitor was already in line for a MW title shot. He just kept his spot by beating Hendo. Phone Post 3.0
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ante_up81 - lol @ mousasi moving up every other month by default

why is lil nog 5???????????
Beat rashad Phone Post 3.0

And yet rashad is still ranked above him, meanwhile Glover is ranked #2 without one top 10 win... Gotta love it

Mousasi is fighting at middleweight along with Machida yet both are ranked in the top 10 here.. smh
11/13/13 2:21 AM
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If Machida's being ranked at LHW, he's obviously above Hendo. Phone Post 3.0
11/13/13 7:20 AM
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?
The fight was at 205 brother.

Also, using that same logic, shouldn't Vitor crack the top ten at LHW? Phone Post 3.0

Oh shit I honestly thought it was at middleweight.

So Vitor beats a LHW fighter to get a title shot at the MW title? Stranger things have happened, I know, but that still doesn't make sense to me.... Oh well.

And yes, if Vitor beat Henderson at LHW, he should be ranked at LHW. I think that makes perfect sense.
Yes he was already named the number one contender, this fight was just to keep him busy. Phone Post 3.0
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ante_up81 - lol @ mousasi moving up every other month by default

why is lil nog 5???????????
Beat rashad Phone Post 3.0

And yet rashad is still ranked above him, meanwhile Glover is ranked #2 without one top 10 win... Gotta love it

Mousasi is fighting at middleweight along with Machida yet both are ranked in the top 10 here.. smh
I suppose Glovers only top 10 win was Bader at the time. But besides that, all of them are outside the top 10. Phone Post 3.0
11/13/13 12:08 PM
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if vitor wanted to just be lhw he would easily be ranked top 5 probably top 3 in that division.he wants to fight for mw title though...the rankings are and will always be questionable.
11/13/13 12:56 PM
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SQUEEZIE - if vitor wanted to just be lhw he would easily be ranked top 5 probably top 3 in that division.he wants to fight for mw title though...the rankings are and will always be questionable.
The only reason he wants the title at MW so bad, is because he had already knocked out two contenders and claimed his spot. I'm sure he would fight for the title at 205 again if he got the chance, I think people are just assuming with the way he was dismantled in the first Jones fight, that he wouldn't get a rematch there. But hell, look at how good he's looked. I think he wants his shot at redemption against Anderson. Maybe if he loses this next shot he will go back up to 205. Phone Post 3.0
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Damn, those rankings are messed up.  2 of the top 10 don't even fight in the division anymore.  Mousasi's best recent win at LHW was back in 2009 over Babalu and since then has lost to King Mo and drew with Keith Jardine.  Lil Nog at #5?  Shogun's only wins in 3.5 years are Vera and Forrest.  He's 2-4 in that time period.  Glover at #2 hasn't beat anyone on that list.  Chael, ranked at #6, is 1-1 in the division in the past 8 years.  Hendo is 0-3 in the past 2 years.

What a clusterfuck.

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how can you beat someone and still be ranked under him (nog and machida) Phone Post 3.0
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Damn, those rankings are messed up.  2 of the top 10 don't even fight in the division anymore.  Mousasi's best recent win at LHW was back in 2009 over Babalu and since then has lost to King Mo and drew with Keith Jardine.  Lil Nog at #5?  Shogun's only wins in 3.5 years are Vera and Forrest.  He's 2-4 in that time period.  Glover at #2 hasn't beat anyone on that list.  Chael, ranked at #6, is 1-1 in the division in the past 8 years.  Hendo is 0-3 in the past 2 years.

What a clusterfuck.

Yes, what a shitty division indeed.

Hashad hasn't looked great lately.

Hendo just came off losing three in a row, including 1 KO.

Little Nogs only relevant win recently is Hashad, in between being injured and inactive. Phone Post 3.0
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Porkchop - Why did he go down at LHW when he lost to a MW?

Can someone explain that logic to me?
The fight was at 205 brother.

Also, using that same logic, shouldn't Vitor crack the top ten at LHW? Phone Post 3.0
Yeah...this is a mess. Lyoto at 10? Phone Post 3.0

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