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11/14/13 6:20 PM
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Thanks man,

Yeah, it was fine on my screen then I saw the clusterfuck and changed it up, good messages can be lost with shitty formatting. That and this is the UG and someone would bust my balls guaranteed
11/14/13 6:37 PM
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I guess my point overall is they all have detriments in the discussion. The question is who's are the biggest.

Here it is then...are you ready?

Fedor lost 3 fights in a row. Two to non champions and one to someone, literally, one weight class smaller than he is.

GSP lost to Hughes ( Champion ) when he had a handfull of fights and then lost to Serra, 3 years later.

GSP > Fedor > A.Silva
Thats a fine opinion but you have to respect that many people value actually finishing your opponents and doing so in devastating fashion. This sport originated from that, and finishing people is very important to many.

Thats why Anderson or Fedor are GOAT to the vast majority over GSP.

GSP is hands down the greatest ATHLETE the sport has ever seen, and a master of gameplanning. He is not the GOAT to the vast majority because he fights to win on points without taking the risks that AS/Fedor took to finish. Phone Post

That's a good argument.

I just like the fact that GSP has avenged his losses and that he literally dominated everyone he's faced. Other than his two losses and his fight with Condit, how many times was he getting smashed on?

My opinion won't change until Fedor avenges at least one of his last 3 losses and Silva beats Weidman twice.
I wont try and change your opinion. I just look at GOAT as a fighters entire career and avenging specific losses doesnt matter much in most situations.
The reality is that Andy and Georges are not done yet, so it hard to be decisive. If they bith stopped fighting right now, even with the Andy loss to Wiedman, I still have Anderson > GSP. I tend to favor devistation and finishes more than most I guess... Phone Post

So you're saying that even if GSP hadn't lost a single fight, the fact that he doesn't finish fights all his fights ranks him lower than Fedor and Silva in the GOAT category...hmmm

I guess Melvin Manhoeff is the GOAT then.
11/14/13 8:54 PM
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I never said anything of the sort. I said avenging losses in context doesnt always matter. No one needs to see Andy beat Chonan or Takase to cement his legacy. That was the point.

Other things like level of competition certainly matter, so the Manhoef comment is silly.

All three have had very high level of competition. GSP gets a slight edge over Andy there. No question. Phone Post
11/14/13 9:20 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - I never said anything of the sort. I said avenging losses in context doesnt always matter. No one needs to see Andy beat Chonan or Takase to cement his legacy. That was the point.

Other things like level of competition certainly matter, so the Manhoef comment is silly.

All three have had very high level of competition. GSP gets a slight edge over Andy there. No question. Phone Post

I never said he did...I said that Silva needed to beat Weidman twice to make up what he lost to become the GOAT.

The Manhoef comment is as silly as your comment about GSP not finishing " devistatingly * " being the factor in him being GOAT or not.

My point is that GSP has dominated EVERY opponent he's ever faced.

Same can't be said for Fedor or Silva...or anyone else for that matter.
11/14/13 9:42 PM
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So he needs to beat Wiedman twice? Why doesnt GSP need to beat Serra twice?

Twice seems odd.

The Manhoef comment was totally silly and in no way is my preferrence for fighters finishing thier opponents as silly as that comment. You may think exploiting the scoring and riding out the clock with jabs and TDs is just as dominant as finishing, but MANY people dont have GSP up there with Fedor and Anderson for that exact reason. Phone Post
11/14/13 9:44 PM
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GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post
11/14/13 10:02 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - So he needs to beat Wiedman twice? Why doesnt GSP need to beat Serra twice?

Twice seems odd.

The Manhoef comment was totally silly and in no way is my preferrence for fighters finishing thier opponents as silly as that comment. You may think exploiting the scoring and riding out the clock with jabs and TDs is just as dominant as finishing, but MANY people dont have GSP up there with Fedor and Anderson for that exact reason. Phone Post

Because Serra never got another chance and we all know why.

Twice because if Silva wins next fight, there'll be an immediate rematch again...and if they fight a third time and Anderson lost 2 out of 3, then it would cement GSP as GOAT...assuming GSP wins Saturday.

GSP isn't exploiting anything other than his opponents' weaknesses...he's dominated every single fighter he's ever faced...
Who else can say that?
11/14/13 10:04 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
11/14/13 10:52 PM
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GSP is one of the best ever and is the smartest and most well rounded fighter the sport has ever seen. He is in my opinion the most talented fighter in mma history. Phone Post 3.0
11/14/13 10:59 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
So despite me clearly stating that I wont try and change your opinion, you just cannot let go of trying to change mine?

I applaud GSP for being able to outpoint his opponents, and take little to no damage in the process. However, I am a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make thier opponent quit or go to sleep. Fighters who are willing to risk getting hit or giving up a position to steal the soul of thier opponent.

GSP is an amazing athlete and gameplanner. He has exceptionally well rounded skill. He is just not a calculated killer like Fedor or Andy.


If Anderson desroys Chris, and is never in any danger, there wont be an immediate rematch. Phone Post
11/14/13 11:07 PM
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11/14/13 11:09 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
So despite me clearly stating that I wont try and change your opinion, you just cannot let go of trying to change mine?

I applaud GSP for being able to outpoint his opponents, and take little to no damage in the process. However, I am a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make thier opponent quit or go to sleep. Fighters who are willing to risk getting hit or giving up a position to steal the soul of thier opponent.

GSP is an amazing athlete and gameplanner. He has exceptionally well rounded skill. He is just not a calculated killer like Fedor or Andy.


If Anderson desroys Chris, and is never in any danger, there wont be an immediate rematch. Phone Post

I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating facts and comparing careers.

I'm also a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make their opponent quit or go to sleep. Doesn't change the fact that GSP has dominated everyone he's faced. You seem to say that GSP is so good that he can control exactly how the fight goes every time...wouldn't that make him GOAT?

What if Anderson loses by knockout or submission again?

Still a better career than GSP?

11/14/13 11:10 PM
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Even Zuffa has to go back 5+ years in the commercials to show him swarming Jay H...


Oh and he lost rounds to Shields and Condit ;-) if we are gonna say he "100% dominated everyone"... Phone Post
11/14/13 11:14 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
So despite me clearly stating that I wont try and change your opinion, you just cannot let go of trying to change mine?

I applaud GSP for being able to outpoint his opponents, and take little to no damage in the process. However, I am a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make thier opponent quit or go to sleep. Fighters who are willing to risk getting hit or giving up a position to steal the soul of thier opponent.

GSP is an amazing athlete and gameplanner. He has exceptionally well rounded skill. He is just not a calculated killer like Fedor or Andy.


If Anderson desroys Chris, and is never in any danger, there wont be an immediate rematch. Phone Post

I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating facts and comparing careers.

I'm also a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make their opponent quit or go to sleep. Doesn't change the fact that GSP has dominated everyone he's faced. You seem to say that GSP is so good that he can control exactly how the fight goes every time...wouldn't that make him GOAT?

What if Anderson loses by knockout or submission again?

Still a better career than GSP?

I dont want to play the what if game...

Niether of them are done fighting yet. Anderson and GSP might both lose or both win. Who knows. I will wait until both of thier careers are over. If it ended today I have Fedor and Anderson over GSP. Phone Post
11/14/13 11:25 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - Even Zuffa has to go back 5+ years in the commercials to show him swarming Jay H...


Oh and he lost rounds to Shields and Condit ;-) if we are gonna say he "100% dominated everyone"... Phone Post

They could have gone with punches and kicks to Hughes's face, him elbowing BJ 30 times and kneeing Serra into submission, or him knocking down and pounding Alves, agreed.

Condit won 1 round.

K-1 Shields won 1 round...two if you're retarded.

11/14/13 11:26 PM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
So despite me clearly stating that I wont try and change your opinion, you just cannot let go of trying to change mine?

I applaud GSP for being able to outpoint his opponents, and take little to no damage in the process. However, I am a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make thier opponent quit or go to sleep. Fighters who are willing to risk getting hit or giving up a position to steal the soul of thier opponent.

GSP is an amazing athlete and gameplanner. He has exceptionally well rounded skill. He is just not a calculated killer like Fedor or Andy.


If Anderson desroys Chris, and is never in any danger, there wont be an immediate rematch. Phone Post

I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating facts and comparing careers.

I'm also a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make their opponent quit or go to sleep. Doesn't change the fact that GSP has dominated everyone he's faced. You seem to say that GSP is so good that he can control exactly how the fight goes every time...wouldn't that make him GOAT?

What if Anderson loses by knockout or submission again?

Still a better career than GSP?

I dont want to play the what if game...

Niether of them are done fighting yet. Anderson and GSP might both lose or both win. Who knows. I will wait until both of thier careers are over. If it ended today I have Fedor and Anderson over GSP. Phone Post

Well there you go...

If it ended today, GSP is GOAT because he's beaten everyone he's ever faced.

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I still think it's going to take a bit for GSP to pass Anderson and Fedor. Dominating by winning rounds is just not the same as straight up murdering people. Fedor and Anderson also had insane longevity on top of often awe-inspiring dominance.

GSP can avoid Fedor's late career losses if he retires early, but that would be a poor rationale to rank him above Fedor. Chuck wasn't any less great just because he got KOed by a light breeze at the end. Guys like Chuck and Fedor had already established their dominant legacies prior to their late career downswings.

I believe Jones will also surpass GSP.

Aldo also has a good shot at passing GSP - if he wins the LW title, that would be pretty historic. The other multi-division greats - Hendo, Penn, Randy - had numerous losses. Aldo is more dominant in his own division than those three were, and if he can win a solid majority of his fights at 155 (if he ever goes there) it would be hard to argue against him being top 5 P4P GOAT. Whether he does surpass GSP depends on a lot going right for Aldo - but it's very possible.
Kerouac - Twice because if Silva wins next fight, there'll be an immediate rematch again...

Unless it's an incredibly controversial decision or something, no, there will not be another rematch if Anderson wins.

Those largely happen because of circumstance and lack of obvious contenders. See Penn-Edgar II, which happened mostly because the only obvious contender - Maynard - didn't want to fight Penn at the time. There was also no clear contender getting bypassed for Machida-Rua II, so that combined with the controversial nature of the decision made a rematch the very obvious call. Whereas it would be pretty damn hard to bypass Vitor right now. He's the ridiculously obvious #1 contender.

If Weidman loses, I'm pretty sure he'll need at least 1 win before getting another shot.
11/14/13 11:49 PM
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DaemonDragon - I still think it's going to take a bit for GSP to pass Anderson and Fedor. Dominating by winning rounds is just not the same as straight up murdering people. Fedor and Anderson also had insane longevity on top of often awe-inspiring dominance.

GSP can avoid Fedor's late career losses if he retires early, but that would be a poor rationale to rank him above Fedor. Chuck wasn't any less great just because he got KOed by a light breeze at the end. Guys like Chuck and Fedor had already established their dominant legacies prior to their late career downswings.

I believe Jones will also surpass GSP.

Aldo also has a good shot at passing GSP - if he wins the LW title, that would be pretty historic. The other multi-division greats - Hendo, Penn, Randy - had numerous losses. Aldo is more dominant in his own division than those three were, and if he can win a solid majority of his fights at 155 (if he ever goes there) it would be hard to argue against him being top 5 P4P GOAT. Whether he does surpass GSP depends on a lot going right for Aldo - but it's very possible.
Kerouac - Twice because if Silva wins next fight, there'll be an immediate rematch again...

Unless it's an incredibly controversial decision or something, no, there will not be another rematch if Anderson wins.

Those largely happen because of circumstance and lack of obvious contenders. See Penn-Edgar II, which happened mostly because the only obvious contender - Maynard - didn't want to fight Penn at the time. There was also no clear contender getting bypassed for Machida-Rua II, so that combined with the controversial nature of the decision made a rematch the very obvious call. Whereas it would be pretty damn hard to bypass Vitor right now. He's the ridiculously obvious #1 contender.

If Weidman loses, I'm pretty sure he'll need at least 1 win before getting another shot.

3 losses in a row and having fought lesser competition takes Fedor out of GOAT in my opinion.

Silva and GSP are closer in comparison but if GSP loses on Saturday and Silva wins his rematch, Silva should be considered GOAT.

As of right now, all things considered and not including maybes and what-ifs...GSP is the most dominating champion to ever step in the Octagon/Ring.

I agree that Aldo could surpass GSP...time will tell.
11/15/13 12:43 AM
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GSP>Anderson> ... daylight ... > Coleman > Fedor

11/15/13 8:24 AM
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
So despite me clearly stating that I wont try and change your opinion, you just cannot let go of trying to change mine?

I applaud GSP for being able to outpoint his opponents, and take little to no damage in the process. However, I am a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make thier opponent quit or go to sleep. Fighters who are willing to risk getting hit or giving up a position to steal the soul of thier opponent.

GSP is an amazing athlete and gameplanner. He has exceptionally well rounded skill. He is just not a calculated killer like Fedor or Andy.


If Anderson desroys Chris, and is never in any danger, there wont be an immediate rematch. Phone Post

I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating facts and comparing careers.

I'm also a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make their opponent quit or go to sleep. Doesn't change the fact that GSP has dominated everyone he's faced. You seem to say that GSP is so good that he can control exactly how the fight goes every time...wouldn't that make him GOAT?

What if Anderson loses by knockout or submission again?

Still a better career than GSP?

I dont want to play the what if game...

Niether of them are done fighting yet. Anderson and GSP might both lose or both win. Who knows. I will wait until both of thier careers are over. If it ended today I have Fedor and Anderson over GSP. Phone Post

Well there you go...

If it ended today, GSP is GOAT because he's beaten everyone he's ever faced.

Thats your opinion. Hate to break it to you but the majority here dont agree with you. Phone Post
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DaemonDragon - I still think it's going to take a bit for GSP to pass Anderson and Fedor. Dominating by winning rounds is just not the same as straight up murdering people. Fedor and Anderson also had insane longevity on top of often awe-inspiring dominance.

GSP can avoid Fedor's late career losses if he retires early, but that would be a poor rationale to rank him above Fedor. Chuck wasn't any less great just because he got KOed by a light breeze at the end. Guys like Chuck and Fedor had already established their dominant legacies prior to their late career downswings.

I believe Jones will also surpass GSP.

Aldo also has a good shot at passing GSP - if he wins the LW title, that would be pretty historic. The other multi-division greats - Hendo, Penn, Randy - had numerous losses. Aldo is more dominant in his own division than those three were, and if he can win a solid majority of his fights at 155 (if he ever goes there) it would be hard to argue against him being top 5 P4P GOAT. Whether he does surpass GSP depends on a lot going right for Aldo - but it's very possible.
Kerouac - Twice because if Silva wins next fight, there'll be an immediate rematch again...

Unless it's an incredibly controversial decision or something, no, there will not be another rematch if Anderson wins.

Those largely happen because of circumstance and lack of obvious contenders. See Penn-Edgar II, which happened mostly because the only obvious contender - Maynard - didn't want to fight Penn at the time. There was also no clear contender getting bypassed for Machida-Rua II, so that combined with the controversial nature of the decision made a rematch the very obvious call. Whereas it would be pretty damn hard to bypass Vitor right now. He's the ridiculously obvious #1 contender.

If Weidman loses, I'm pretty sure he'll need at least 1 win before getting another shot.

3 losses in a row and having fought lesser competition takes Fedor out of GOAT in my opinion.

Silva and GSP are closer in comparison but if GSP loses on Saturday and Silva wins his rematch, Silva should be considered GOAT.

As of right now, all things considered and not including maybes and what-ifs...GSP is the most dominating champion to ever step in the Octagon/Ring.

I agree that Aldo could surpass GSP...time will tell.
So Anderson has more UFC title defenses in a row, a longer UFC winning streak, WAY more finishes, yet as of right now GSP is the most dominant UFC champion?

They both lost once as the champion in the UFC.
Andy to a top ranked contender, GSP to the winner of TUF comeback....

GOAT talk aside how can you rank GSP as the greater UFC champion?

Back to GOAT talk how many times has GSP stepped outside his weight class and took on larger challengers from the division above? Anderson has been ranked #1 in two weight classes. Beaten top 5 challengers in three. That has to hold weight to anyone being rational as well. Phone Post
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DaemonDragon - I still think it's going to take a bit for GSP to pass Anderson and Fedor. Dominating by winning rounds is just not the same as straight up murdering people. Fedor and Anderson also had insane longevity on top of often awe-inspiring dominance.

GSP can avoid Fedor's late career losses if he retires early, but that would be a poor rationale to rank him above Fedor. Chuck wasn't any less great just because he got KOed by a light breeze at the end. Guys like Chuck and Fedor had already established their dominant legacies prior to their late career downswings.

I believe Jones will also surpass GSP.

Aldo also has a good shot at passing GSP - if he wins the LW title, that would be pretty historic. The other multi-division greats - Hendo, Penn, Randy - had numerous losses. Aldo is more dominant in his own division than those three were, and if he can win a solid majority of his fights at 155 (if he ever goes there) it would be hard to argue against him being top 5 P4P GOAT. Whether he does surpass GSP depends on a lot going right for Aldo - but it's very possible.
Kerouac - Twice because if Silva wins next fight, there'll be an immediate rematch again...

Unless it's an incredibly controversial decision or something, no, there will not be another rematch if Anderson wins.

Those largely happen because of circumstance and lack of obvious contenders. See Penn-Edgar II, which happened mostly because the only obvious contender - Maynard - didn't want to fight Penn at the time. There was also no clear contender getting bypassed for Machida-Rua II, so that combined with the controversial nature of the decision made a rematch the very obvious call. Whereas it would be pretty damn hard to bypass Vitor right now. He's the ridiculously obvious #1 contender.

If Weidman loses, I'm pretty sure he'll need at least 1 win before getting another shot.

3 losses in a row and having fought lesser competition takes Fedor out of GOAT in my opinion.

Silva and GSP are closer in comparison but if GSP loses on Saturday and Silva wins his rematch, Silva should be considered GOAT.

As of right now, all things considered and not including maybes and what-ifs...GSP is the most dominating champion to ever step in the Octagon/Ring.

I agree that Aldo could surpass GSP...time will tell.
So Anderson has more UFC title defenses in a row, a longer UFC winning streak, WAY more finishes, yet as of right now GSP is the most dominant UFC champion?

They both lost once as the champion in the UFC.
Andy to a top ranked contender, GSP to the winner of TUF comeback....

GOAT talk aside how can you rank GSP as the greater UFC champion?

Back to GOAT talk how many times has GSP stepped outside his weight class and took on larger challengers from the division above? Anderson has been ranked #1 in two weight classes. Beaten top 5 challengers in three. That has to hold weight to anyone being rational as well. Phone Post


Really this is a strong post IMO. Now step away from GSP's losses and look at AS's in fairness no? Unless the topic is not 'GOAT' but "most dominant UFC champion". Also look at fights like Maia & how he was KTFO exactly. Then look at the fact even though he fought LHW he too never challenged the best when there were the best as well. He also did not want certain fights including Weidman even at MW (GSP did not want JH too).

So even though it's a strong post the other side of the coin speaks volumes too, frankly maybe more so.

When you look at it, Fedor is the HW GOAT, he fought all comers, WTF do you want a guy to do? He did not fail to step up and challenge the best he stepped to Nog.

I'm no fan of his (or any really) and always looked at him being the HW Goat as kind of a 'default' position! I think he had wild striking. I think his striking game (however strong) peaked after his true prime, yet I think he edges out comp on the basis above too. I admit it's not 100 percent crystal as well.



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Defend Machida? The guy fought @ LHW most his fuckin career undersized. LMFAO
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Lazer dont start with your never fought the best at LHW crap again. The "best" actually refused to fight Anderson when offered. FOUR top 10 LHWs minimum are known to have declined when offered. Rashad more than once. Outside of that Anderson only said he wouldnt fight Machida/Nog or fight for the belt because of them. He fought the LHWs that were actually willing to say yes. Phone Post
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FETT_ Cains._Burrito_In_My_BrownEye - GSP finishes 35% of his UFC fights....under 50% overall.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson. Phone Post

GSP has dominated 100% of his opponents.

Compare that to Fedor and Anderson
So despite me clearly stating that I wont try and change your opinion, you just cannot let go of trying to change mine?

I applaud GSP for being able to outpoint his opponents, and take little to no damage in the process. However, I am a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make thier opponent quit or go to sleep. Fighters who are willing to risk getting hit or giving up a position to steal the soul of thier opponent.

GSP is an amazing athlete and gameplanner. He has exceptionally well rounded skill. He is just not a calculated killer like Fedor or Andy.


If Anderson desroys Chris, and is never in any danger, there wont be an immediate rematch. Phone Post

I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating facts and comparing careers.

I'm also a fan of fighters who get in the cage to make their opponent quit or go to sleep. Doesn't change the fact that GSP has dominated everyone he's faced. You seem to say that GSP is so good that he can control exactly how the fight goes every time...wouldn't that make him GOAT?

What if Anderson loses by knockout or submission again?

Still a better career than GSP?

I dont want to play the what if game...

Niether of them are done fighting yet. Anderson and GSP might both lose or both win. Who knows. I will wait until both of thier careers are over. If it ended today I have Fedor and Anderson over GSP. Phone Post

Well there you go...

If it ended today, GSP is GOAT because he's beaten everyone he's ever faced.

Thats your opinion. Hate to break it to you but the majority here dont agree with you. Phone Post

It is my opinion.

I'll be ok and thanks for the concern.

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