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11/21/13 1:51 PM
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The UFC held a press conference at 11 am ET in the MSG lobby to release a new report on the economic impact of MMA in NY. Ariel Helwani live tweeted from the event.

During the conference, ZUFFA CEO Lorenzo Fertitta mentioned in passing that the UFC planned 54 shows in 2014 (it will actually be in the 40s), and that regulating MMA in New York state would generate $135,000,000.

“We know what UFC events do for cities around the nation and around the world," said Fertitta. "And now we know what it’s estimated we can do in New York. Legalizing professional MMA in New York means $135 million in economic activity for the state."

The report bases its figures on at least three upstate and two downstate UFC events a year, as well as the establishment of MMA training centers. The report estimated that New York would reap nearly $6 million in sales-tax revenue.

The bill to regulated MMA has earne bipartisan support, but has been thwarted for the past four years due to pressure from Nevada's Culinary Union 266, which has been spectacularly unsuccessful in trying to organize the Station Casino chain, which, like the UFC, is owned by the Fertitta brothers.

“I am hopeful that 2014 is the year that we legalize and regulate MMA in New York,” said Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Morelle, D-Irondequoit. “I, and many of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, recognize the tremendous economic impact this increasingly popular sport can bring to New York, and especially to cities upstate.”

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan, who has undemocratically failed to allow the bil to come to a vote said through a spokesman that "we haven’t made any determinations at this point” on whether the issue will be revisited in 2014.

Best line at the conference came from UFC middleweight champion Chris Weidman.

"Look into these hazel eyes, from one NYer to another, stop," said Weidman. "It's enough. Make it happen."

In a bizarre turn of events, some "fans" of the sport, led by the irreverent CagePotato, tweeted in opposition to the number of shows.
•Would any of you legitimately be interested in 54 UFC events per year? Basically one per week?
•Can't wait to see the MMA media market those cards as "PPV quality"...
•Seems like the UFC is in a race to the bottom as far as diluting their product as much as possible is concerned.
•And Dana White already complained that the roster was too big. Won't it have to expand even more to accommodate that many events per year?
•OK so think of the worst, bottom of the barrel fighter the UFC has. Now imagine tons of fight cards with fighters of that caliber on it.
•Of the 54 events next year, how many will be headlined by the IIir Latifis of the sport?
•Dana: We're putting on so many diluted cards that fans are losing interest. What's the plan? Lorenzo: Put on more cards.
•There are 2,430 games in an MLB regular season, and I don't care about that sport either.
•The UFC is going to learn the hard way that putting a mid-carder in the main event only makes them a main-eventer in a literal sense.

Fertitta said afterwards that he misspoke about the 54 fights, and that the number is actually in the 40s. He expanded on his remarks in an interview with Ariel Helwani.

“We are looking at expanding our Fight Night product,” said Fertitta as transcribed by CagePotato. “We have the bottom tier, we have the Ultimate Fighter which we’re taking around the world now. We have obviously the series on FOX Sports 1. We just got done filming The Ultimate Fighter: China which will air in January in China. We’ve got The Ultimate Fighter: Canada and Australia in production right now. We’re in pre-production for series in other various countries around the world. That’s our base."

“In the middle of the pyramid we have our UFC Fight Night brand. We’re gonna take that Fight Night product and expand it into Europe and into Asia next year…We’re gonna add fights in those regions so when you add them on to the 33 we’d do this year, it gets into that 40-ish type number.”

“Is that what I said? 54? It won’t be quite that. I think I misspoke. It’ll be in the 40′s. Right now, we’ll have some news coming up on where they’re gonna air. I think we’re gonna have some ground-breaking ideas as far as where that’s gonna be available.”

The numbers are pretty straight forward. There are around 400 fighters under contract with the UFC, and each needs to fight three times per year. That is of course 1,200 times a fighter has to step into the cage. With twelve fights per card, or 24 fighters, that is a total of about 50 fights that the UFC has to put on. You can take away some fights for injuries, and add some fights as there are likely more than 400 fighters under contract (UFC president Dana White referenced 475 fighters last year). But somewhere around 50 fights is about right, and nothing to whine about.

Thus the unfortunate fan reaction was unfortunate.

UG, would any of you legitimately be interested in 54 UFC events per year? Basically one per week? If you were busy, what steps would you take to prevent the TV from taking you down and holding you in place, forcing you to watch?


11/21/13 1:55 PM
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2104 huh? Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 1:57 PM
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I love the @UFC but I am hoping @LorenzoFertitta is NOT #SERIOUS about 54 events next year - that would result in some WEAK fight cards. ??


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@SERIOUSMMA @ufc I misspoke
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I would like to know the breakdown of PPV cards versus FOX/FOX Sports cards. either way 2014 is going to be unbelievable. The more fights the better! Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:05 PM
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Halfway expected it to read "fans wine"....If there were spelling errors you guys got to them quick this time, kudos.
11/21/13 2:06 PM
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UG whines IMO. Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:08 PM
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Just so I'm clear UFC says they'll hold 54 events a year.

Fans and Cagepotato get concerned because they believe it will result in more weak cards instead of fewer quality cards.

UFC corrects itself, they wouldn't have that many cards in 1 year because... well most likely the cards would be too weak and not generate enough interest.

The fans reaction is considered "weird" despite being ultimately correct.
11/21/13 2:09 PM
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54 fights cards in one year!! OH NOES!!!!

How about you just watch the cards your interested in!!!!!!!

More UFC fight cards means more money going around for everyone from the fighters to people working in the arenas.. And half the time the "prelim" and "mid" fighters out on one hell of a fucking show!!!

Also, some unknown fighters can impress and make a name for themselves!!!

I'm all for it, no one is making you watch all 54!! Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:12 PM
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What they should do if they really did that many events, assuming most of them would be international reginal type events they should just not air them, dont stream or put them on tv.

Since they are so weak and not worth anyones time just dont show them but then of course all those who complain about too many cards will complain about not being able to see the watered down cards.

11/21/13 2:12 PM
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11/21/13 2:13 PM
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I am not sure abou this either. If at least half of them are overseas and at least 40 procent focus on localized talent then it might not be that bad.

It all comes down to how thin they are going to spread the champion and upper echelon fighters.

If the continue in current format though the better get use to a world with PPV income because how they are currently handling things is not doing there PPV numbers any favors.

Having said all that i will still watch most if not all ( even TUF china). But the state in with i am watching and the financial implications of this are both very uncertain.

I think "Cagepotato" raised some legit concerns in a antagonist manner! Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:15 PM
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"OK so think of the worst, bottom of the barrel fighter the UFC has. Now imagine tons of fight cards with fighters of that caliber on it."

So, like a Bellator?

I kid, I kid... Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:16 PM
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There is no way in hell I could keep up with that many cards or even pretend that I would be interested in doing so. I can't even keep up as it is with all the cards they have.
11/21/13 2:17 PM
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Body Shots - 54 fights cards in one year!! OH NOES!!!!

How about you just watch the cards your interested in!!!!!!!

More UFC fight cards means more money going around for everyone from the fighters to people working in the arenas.. And half the time the "prelim" and "mid" fighters out on one hell of a fucking show!!!

Also, some unknown fighters can impress and make a name for themselves!!!

I'm all for it, no one is making you watch all 54!! Phone Post 3.0

Sounds like a good argument for why Bellator should exist.
11/21/13 2:17 PM
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A good portion of these events will be overseas and likely not televised. I doubt it will affect the PPVs, Fox Cards etc that much.
11/21/13 2:18 PM
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Body Shots - 54 fights cards in one year!! OH NOES!!!!

How about you just watch the cards your interested in!!!!!!!

More UFC fight cards means more money going around for everyone from the fighters to people working in the arenas.. And half the time the "prelim" and "mid" fighters out on one hell of a fucking show!!!

Also, some unknown fighters can impress and make a name for themselves!!!

I'm all for it, no one is making you watch all 54!! Phone Post 3.0

Sounds like a good argument for why Bellator should exist.
I think Bellator should exist.. Never said otherwise!! Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:19 PM
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I do the UFC as a reason to hang out with my friends 1 or 2 times a month. I am a fan most of the others are just interested in passing. So many cards will loose their interest and mess up the good thing I have going... Phone Post 3.0
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Body Shots - 54 fights cards in one year!! OH NOES!!!!

How about you just watch the cards your interested in!!!!!!!

More UFC fight cards means more money going around for everyone from the fighters to people working in the arenas.. And half the time the "prelim" and "mid" fighters out on one hell of a fucking show!!!

Also, some unknown fighters can impress and make a name for themselves!!!

I'm all for it, no one is making you watch all 54!! Phone Post 3.0

Sounds like a good argument for why Bellator should exist.
I think Bellator should exist.. Never said otherwise!! Phone Post 3.0

Sorry, did not mean to imply you did. Just was commenting on your argument. Rather than dilute the UFC cards, I would rather have a strong #2 in the market to serve the hardcore fans looking for more.
11/21/13 2:30 PM
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KnowKontrol - I do the UFC as a reason to hang out with my friends 1 or 2 times a month. I am a fan most of the others are just interested in passing. So many cards will loose their interest and mess up the good thing I have going... Phone Post 3.0
Same here Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:34 PM
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Im happy about it, my girlfriend probably isnt tho Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:42 PM
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I used to never miss an event 2002 - 2011 and then likely would buy the DVD through ufc 100, when it came out. Now, I pick and choose which PPV to buy and even when I miss a fs1 event it's no big deal because the next event is already being hyped as the can't miss of the year.

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11/21/13 2:49 PM
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MOAR!

54 of 365 days this year booked

Now to schedule my days for the other MMA events =)

11/21/13 2:50 PM
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I would love a ufc card every week. Make it happen! Phone Post 3.0
11/21/13 2:54 PM
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shit there goes a lot of my free time.
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HighFreq - I would like to know the breakdown of PPV cards versus FOX/FOX Sports cards. either way 2014 is going to be unbelievable. The more fights the better! Phone Post 3.0

+1

I don't buy PPVs, so if they are still keeping it to 1 PPV per month and the rest are free shows on cable, this is great news...

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