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1/12/14 7:38 PM
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Jimmy Rustler
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Johnson shouldn't be in the same breathe as Khabib.

 

Johnsons best win was against Tony Ferguson, and even then he got lucky cuz tony broke his arm in the first round and fought the rest of the fight with 1 arm

1/12/14 7:59 PM
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I wish Cowboy didn't have a fight coming up.

You know he would fight him in a second.

1/12/14 8:18 PM
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Nate turned the fight down

 

Respect for Jake for taking the Lombard fight. Looks like the only guy from the scrap pack that wants the tough fights.


Jake Shields for the win!
Most underrated guy in the UFC.
1/12/14 8:52 PM
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Dana is a genius. He promotes a new rising star out of Europe + gains new a fanbase of Russians and UFC awareness from Mother Russia, while simutaneously reminding fighters that they are still under contract and are not the ones picking their opponents,  If he goads one of the fighters into taking a Khabab fight, so much the better.

If the fighters who turned the fights down want to get onto social media to defend their actions or career strategy, that's great too, because it creates buzz, chit chat and the vocal minority butthurt fans who run to their computers to bitch about it as well as the guys who think it's great, like me.

 

Some of you just don't get it.


classic UFC market expansion... get local talent. promote. profit

1/12/14 9:24 PM
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Nate says UFC is full of shit. Pay him what he deserves. Let's see it. Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 9:26 PM
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Gfropr - He is really good all around. I think if somebody can stuff his takedowns they can exploit him on the feet. He loves the overhand right a good counter puncher with takedown defense is what can stop him. I think Gil and Diego both can beat him. As well as Thompson (maybe) and Grant. Phone Post 3.0
Melendez maybe but Diego has no chance in hell. Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 12:27 AM
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In boxing, he Khabib would find himself in the Winky Wright position right now. Sure, he'd have some random ABC title but he'd just be the undefeated guy nobody that draws would fight. Its not out of fear, it's because it doesn't make you more money to beat him. Fighting him on a UFC card puts you as an opening fight or possibly a UFN main event at best. That means no percentage of the gate, no big sponsors, and a dog fight in the cage.

There is a reason boxing has the issue it does. Khabib should fight some heralded name of yesteryear just to boost his own status amongst casual fans, imo. That would help his cause much more than Dana calling everybody scared of him.
1/13/14 12:30 AM
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Johnson shouldn't be in the same breathe as Khabib.

 

Johnsons best win was against Tony Ferguson, and even then he got lucky cuz tony broke his arm in the first round and fought the rest of the fight with 1 arm


Didn't he just ko the same guy that had a close decision loss to Khabib?
1/13/14 12:39 AM
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WrestlingSucks - In boxing, he Khabib would find himself in the Winky Wright position right now. Sure, he'd have some random ABC title but he'd just be the undefeated guy nobody that draws would fight. Its not out of fear, it's because it doesn't make you more money to beat him. Fighting him on a UFC card puts you as an opening fight or possibly a UFN main event at best. That means no percentage of the gate, no big sponsors, and a dog fight in the cage.

There is a reason boxing has the issue it does. Khabib should fight some heralded name of yesteryear just to boost his own status amongst casual fans, imo. That would help his cause much more than Dana calling everybody scared of him.
Then In boxing his name would have been Guillermo Rigondeaux. Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 1:22 AM
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WrestlingSucks - In boxing, he Khabib would find himself in the Winky Wright position right now. Sure, he'd have some random ABC title but he'd just be the undefeated guy nobody that draws would fight. Its not out of fear, it's because it doesn't make you more money to beat him. Fighting him on a UFC card puts you as an opening fight or possibly a UFN main event at best. That means no percentage of the gate, no big sponsors, and a dog fight in the cage.

There is a reason boxing has the issue it does. Khabib should fight some heralded name of yesteryear just to boost his own status amongst casual fans, imo. That would help his cause much more than Dana calling everybody scared of him.
Then In boxing his name would have been Guillermo Rigondeaux. Phone Post 3.0
Rig's problem is that many consider him unwatchable despite being an INCREDIBLE talent. Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 2:38 AM
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VitorpeepeetasteStrongTRT - It's a risky fight for anyone. Phone Post 3.0
I agree 100% but Dana shows alot of respect publicly to guys who step up to big fights on short notice and im sure he compensates them with back stage bonus's etc for it. There have been upsets in short notice fights against respectable dangerous opponents for example rick story vs charlie brenneman. Even if they lose he always talks well of them in post fight interviews etc, so it cant be a bad thing even if you lose to this guy on short notice. Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 2:45 AM
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MoomBah -

Nate turned the fight down

 

Respect for Jake for taking the Lombard fight. Looks like the only guy from the scrap pack that wants the tough fights.

Don't believe all u hear Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 3:09 AM
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Dana is a genius. He promotes a new rising star out of Europe + gains new a fanbase of Russians and UFC awareness from Mother Russia, while simutaneously reminding fighters that they are still under contract and are not the ones picking their opponents,  If he goads one of the fighters into taking a Khabab fight, so much the better.

If the fighters who turned the fights down want to get onto social media to defend their actions or career strategy, that's great too, because it creates buzz, chit chat and the vocal minority butthurt fans who run to their computers to bitch about it as well as the guys who think it's great, like me.

 

Some of you just don't get it.


Trust me, most of us get it. The point that some of us are trying to make is not about whether or not Dana has successfully created hype for the UFC, rather it's about the fact that his chosen strategy doesn't have any long term benefits in terms of dealing with future contractors / contracts. Nor does it have any benefit in terms of giving a rather young sport added credibility.

This well said

1/13/14 11:37 AM
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Big surprise, Dana has a negotiation battle with a fighter, and tries to muscle said fighter into the contract Dana wants by publicly calling him out -- good promotional work there, Chief -- and turning a monetary issue into one of fear, and manliness.
1/13/14 11:38 AM
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WrestlingSucks - In boxing, he Khabib would find himself in the Winky Wright position right now. Sure, he'd have some random ABC title but he'd just be the undefeated guy nobody that draws would fight. Its not out of fear, it's because it doesn't make you more money to beat him. Fighting him on a UFC card puts you as an opening fight or possibly a UFN main event at best. That means no percentage of the gate, no big sponsors, and a dog fight in the cage.

There is a reason boxing has the issue it does. Khabib should fight some heralded name of yesteryear just to boost his own status amongst casual fans, imo. That would help his cause much more than Dana calling everybody scared of him.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding, we have a Bingo
1/13/14 11:39 AM
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Dana is a genius. He promotes a new rising star out of Europe + gains new a fanbase of Russians and UFC awareness from Mother Russia, while simutaneously reminding fighters that they are still under contract and are not the ones picking their opponents,  If he goads one of the fighters into taking a Khabab fight, so much the better.

If the fighters who turned the fights down want to get onto social media to defend their actions or career strategy, that's great too, because it creates buzz, chit chat and the vocal minority butthurt fans who run to their computers to bitch about it as well as the guys who think it's great, like me.

 

Some of you just don't get it.


Trust me, most of us get it. The point that some of us are trying to make is not about whether or not Dana has successfully created hype for the UFC, rather it's about the fact that his chosen strategy doesn't have any long term benefits in terms of dealing with future contractors / contracts. Nor does it have any benefit in terms of giving a rather young sport added credibility.

This well said


Ya, gotta add my own +1
1/13/14 11:43 AM
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VitorpeepeetasteStrongTRT - It's a risky fight for anyone. Phone Post 3.0
I agree 100% but Dana shows alot of respect publicly to guys who step up to big fights on short notice and im sure he compensates them with back stage bonus's etc for it. There have been upsets in short notice fights against respectable dangerous opponents for example rick story vs charlie brenneman. Even if they lose he always talks well of them in post fight interviews etc, so it cant be a bad thing even if you lose to this guy on short notice. Phone Post 3.0

You ASSUME, he compensates them...

Big difference...

I used to hold that position, but the longer you're told to just, "trust them," that the fighters are getting handled in a way everyone benefits from, the more annoying it gets to be held in the dark.



There are also a multitude of fighters who've taken short notice fights, but didn't perform well enough, so they end up getting cut anyways.




There really are tons of examples where it pans out, but also a ton where it backfired tremendously for the dude trying to be a company man.

And since there's always a good chance of the guy, "just trusting the UFC/Dana," to get screwed over on these fights, it's fair game for them to show trepidation and worry about their CAREER as well as the fight itself -- as easy as it is for us fucking fans to just scream BUDO and TRUE WARRIOR

This is a business, and to consistently paint fighters who show a little business sense or caution before accepting fights BLAF wants as wusses or scared is fucking disrespectful, and a poor promotion choice in the long term.

Just my two cents though, clearly I don't have the C.V. BLAF does in terms of promotional success lol
1/13/14 1:29 PM
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MattyECB - Big surprise, Dana has a negotiation battle with a fighter, and tries to muscle said fighter into the contract Dana wants by publicly calling him out -- good promotional work there, Chief -- and turning a monetary issue into one of fear, and manliness.
This. Phone Post 3.0
1/13/14 9:34 PM
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MattyECB - Big surprise, Dana has a negotiation battle with a fighter, and tries to muscle said fighter into the contract Dana wants by publicly calling him out -- good promotional work there, Chief -- and turning a monetary issue into one of fear, and manliness.
This. Phone Post 3.0
Unbelievably unprofessional Phone Post 3.0

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