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2/2/14 1:03 AM
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shootfightermike
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so laying there with your hands over your head means no stoppage?

 
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facedown with zero defense? cmon faber you lost
2/2/14 1:06 AM
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agreed. getting rocked 3 times and then dropped, then taking 15 unanswered shots to the head while turtled up (covered or not, it doesnt matter)....that doesnt qualify as "intelligently defending yourself".

2/2/14 1:08 AM
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He was intelligently defending himself. If blocking a punch is not intelligently defending yourself I don't know what is.
2/2/14 1:09 AM
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Terrible stoppage. One of the worsts of all time.
2/2/14 1:09 AM
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Getting punched in the arm and hand seems like the optimal place to get punched and avoid damage. But yeah, he should have moved his hand away, waved it around and take shots to the face/head just so it could "seem" like he was defending himself, instead of the more intelligent option that takes zero damage.


If anything it should have been stopped the first time he got dropped where he was actually in trouble.
2/2/14 1:10 AM
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thumbs up or not? he was laying there waiting for what? did he think barao was gonna punch himself out?

turtling up and holding up a thumb does not mean the fight wont be stopped

2/2/14 1:11 AM
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shootfightermike - 

 

thumbs up or not? he was laying there waiting for what? did he think barao was gonna punch himself out?

turtling up and holding up a thumb does not mean the fight wont be stopped


so you're saying those punches were gonna stop urijah? big KO on the way from them?

2/2/14 1:11 AM
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By what was happening I would be willing to bet Barao would have gassed before Faber would have been injured from what was transpiring at the end there.
2/2/14 1:13 AM
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this is a really odd spot... whether he's got his hand blocking or not, he's not improving his spot.  Faber gets dropped twice, goes turtle mode and gets hammered on a dozen or so times... I think Herb kind of has to stop it...

2/2/14 1:13 AM
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Twitter reacts to Renan Barao’s controversial UFC 169 main-event win

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2/2/14 1:13 AM
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Weak punches to the wrist are enough to finish a fight according to some. Faber was fine by that point, but he can't give Dean a reason to stop the fight.
2/2/14 1:14 AM
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shootfightermike -

 

thumbs up or not? he was laying there waiting for what? did he think barao was gonna punch himself out?

turtling up and holding up a thumb does not mean the fight wont be stopped

I think it shows you are coherent enough to try something.

Brock showed less signs against Carwin of being still in it. Almost could be said for Reem/Browne.

I just don't like seeing a fight stopped right after a fighter confirms he is still in it. Phone Post 3.0
2/2/14 1:16 AM
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When it happens to people's favourite fighters it's a travesty and the sport is dying, when it happens to people hate or are meh on, it's fine

2/2/14 1:17 AM
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Frank Mir looks as if he is dying every fight, but they stop this when he is getting punched in the hand and giving a thumbs up?
2/2/14 1:18 AM
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rockafella - He was intelligently defending himself. If blocking a punch is not intelligently defending yourself I don't know what is.

Turtling with your hand over your head isn't an intelligent defense bro. If your fighter was getting ground and pounded would you scream from the corner "turtle and block shots but don't move?" If he was trying to improve position while holding his hand over his head it would be deemed intelligent. Lying motionless with hand over head = no good. Herb Dean wins.
2/2/14 1:19 AM
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He also gave a thumbs up with his other hand. He was doing everything he could do to answer a question asked to him while intelligently defending himself.
2/2/14 1:21 AM
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rockafella - He was intelligently defending himself. If blocking a punch is not intelligently defending yourself I don't know what is.

Turtling with your hand over your head isn't an intelligent defense bro. If your fighter was getting ground and pounded would you scream from the corner "turtle and block shots but don't move?" If he was trying to improve position while holding his hand over his head it would be deemed intelligent. Lying motionless with hand over head = no good. Herb Dean wins.

If you are blocking punches you are intelligently defending yourself.

How that can be disputed is beyond me.
2/2/14 1:22 AM
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agreed. getting rocked 3 times and then dropped, then taking 15 unanswered shots to the head while turtled up (covered or not, it doesnt matter)....that doesnt qualify as "intelligently defending yourself".


Problem is they were shots to the wrist, not the head.

Proof - Barao wasn't even looking where he was punching.

Early stoppage.


If everyone just almost finishes, sits in an ultra save position, and hammer fists someone's arm, MMA is gonna get a whole lot fucking worse.

Please do not support this bad stoppage.
Exactly. It's like these dumb mother fuckers can't except that it was an early stoppage but yes renan was beating his ass prior and would have most likely won anyways. Still doesn't change the fact we were robbed of a better ending and that was a terrible stoppage. Phone Post 3.0
2/2/14 1:23 AM
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Honestly never been much of a Faber fan, but his arm was blocking as much of Barao's punches as humanly possible. Bullshit situation that Faber shouldn't have been in in the first place had he stopped barao's first big right, but an absolute bullshit stoppage regardless.
2/2/14 1:25 AM
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2/2/14 1:26 AM
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He turtled up, nice win for Barao.
2/2/14 1:27 AM
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To me it wasn't even about the thumbs up. You stop the fight early to prevent further damage. Barao was doing zero damage at that point with those pitty pat hammer taps. Faber would still most likely have lost and Herb Dean is still the man, but this was a poor stoppage.

2/2/14 1:29 AM
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Are there any real reasons for this fight being stopped?
2/2/14 1:30 AM
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I just hate that he was doing those little pitter pat shots and goading the ref into stopping it by glaring at him with his eyes bugging out of his head.

2/2/14 1:34 AM
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Blows my mind that anyone is even arguing in favor of Barao here. 

If that is an example of going for the finish offense, I'm only going for wrist, shoulder, and forearm punch at 40% from now on. But, while doing so, Im going to stare down the ref/coach. 

 


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