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2/17/14 2:23 PM
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Just heard this

Royler is wearing Tight Shorts and a Rashguard

Eddie is wearing the Gi Pants
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Royler can grab the pants

Eddie CAN’T grab the shorts



Source: http://www.thefightnation.com/the-rules-for-royler-gracie-vs-eddie-bravo-2-seem-a-bit-odd/


Care to comment Eddie perhaps?
2/17/14 2:26 PM
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Royler can pull hair and Eddie can grab roylers ears Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 2:28 PM
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So they have to wear the similar gear as they're first bout? Phone Post
2/17/14 2:30 PM
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Jake Shields, anyone??? Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 2:31 PM
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Sigh

I knew this would happen

Next thing we hear is that the fight is cancelled. Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 2:31 PM
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Bravo was wearing fight shorts and no shirt in the first fight. Having gi pants that Royler can grab this time is certainly an advantage for Gracie even if it's minuscule. Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 2:32 PM
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"If either fighter shows up wearing anything other than the agreed upon attire… the fight is off. (This was pushed by Royler’s Attorney)

To top it all off, Royler even wanted a rule where he would be allowed to GRAB THE RASHGUARD! I don’t know about you but this all seems kind of screwed up. What the hell, we might as well let chair shots be legal too."

This bit seems the most odd. Seems like they're trying to work anything towards Royler's favour and also makes it seem like they're looking for any way out of the match. Why not just fake an injury and be done with it?

2/17/14 2:33 PM
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Royler is a legend but it seems as though he left all of his budo spirit in Japan...




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2/17/14 2:36 PM
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If true, I think it's incredibly stupid. 

The only upshot for Eddie here is that if he wins again, it'll be as difficult as possible for anybody to complain.  After all, the rules were--literally--structured against him.  Perhaps that's why Eddie agreed to it.  The upside for him is substantial. 

Outside of that, this makes very little sense.  If Royler wins and it in anyway involves him gripping Eddie's pants, Eddie's fans will point to the unfairness of the rules as a way to undermine the value of a Royler win.  Eddie won when the rules were uniform, and Royler won only when the rules were lopsided. 

The whole point of competition is that the rules are uniform.  This is effectively a "handicap" in Royler's favor, which has the unfortunate effect of making Royler look like a bit of a coward, as if he was nervous he wouldn't be able to beat Eddie's famous guard without the ability to grab the pants.

Even Schaub took the match with Cyborg on equal footing rather than insisting he be able to throw punches while Cyborg could only grapple. 

2/17/14 2:36 PM
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Fack.  Not liking the sounds of this.

2/17/14 2:56 PM
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The Loge - Royler is a legend but it seems as though he left all of his budo spirit in Japan...




WAR EDDIE BRAVO! Phone Post 3.0

this all day. why the fuck does he want to win like that?
2/17/14 3:05 PM
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i agree with the gi pants. You can grab gi's in gi matches and you cant gran shorts in no-gi matches. Seems fair
2/17/14 3:07 PM
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kungfugrip - i agree with the gi pants. You can grab gi's in gi matches and you cant gran shorts in no-gi matches. Seems fair
So a mixed match makes sense? Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:08 PM
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What a bunch of bullshit. Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:09 PM
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Ahh why don't they just wear the same attire? What a cop out for a royler. Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:11 PM
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Why doesn't Eddie just wear fucking shorts and have a no gi match? Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:13 PM
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PrettyBoy - Why doesn't Eddie just wear fucking shorts and have a no gi match? Phone Post 3.0
Because if he does Royler won't compete. Royler's lawyers contacted Eddie after Eddie said he was going to wear shorts. Eddie HAS to wear gi pants according to Royler and his lawyers or the match is off... Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:15 PM
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"If either fighter shows up wearing anything other than the agreed upon attire… the fight is off."

Does this mean that if Eddie shows up with neoprene ankle braces, sleeves and knee pads on under said Gi pants that the "fight" will be called off? Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:15 PM
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WAR EDDIE BRAVO! Phone Post 3.0

This.

Eddie Bravo all day.
2/17/14 3:18 PM
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MuchRespec' - "If either fighter shows up wearing anything other than the agreed upon attire… the fight is off."

Does this mean that if Eddie shows up with neoprene ankle braces, sleeves and knee pads on under said Gi pants that the "fight" will be called off? Phone Post 3.0

Depends what was actually agreed on.

If the contract prohibits those items and provides that if anyone shows up with them then the match is off, then yes. 

But I expect the contract probably doesn't mention that type of stuff one way or the other.  The core issues are Eddie in rash guard and gi pants, Royler in rash guard and vale tudo shorts.  Whether somebody has an ankle brace is probably not addressed, and wouldn't be a basis to cancel the contest unless you could make a colorable argument that the brace somehow undermines what was agreed to. 

2/17/14 3:19 PM
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Dude sounds like a scared bitch Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 3:20 PM
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Are there actual news about this? It would be interesting to know more about the reasons behind the rules.

Did Eddie request the Gi pants? It seems odd to me that a huge proponent of no-gi grappling would wear Gi pants.
2/17/14 3:42 PM
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Would like more details.

I would have thought that Bravo would have wanted pants (or shorts and ankle to thigh sleeves) as the friction seems to help with the 10P system. Are we sure Bravo didn't want shorts and sleeves and the pants were a compromise by both?

And if I was Royler, I would def add the caveat that I get to grab them just like any other part of a gi.

Maybe I am wrong, but it seems odd that Royler would be the one requesting that Eddie wear pants- especially in light of leg friction being a big 10P thing. Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 4:04 PM
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Eddie should punk him and walk onto the mat in his gi pnts but take them off just before the bout starts.

That would put Royler in a very difficult position. Phone Post 3.0
2/17/14 4:14 PM
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^^^^ good scenario , this is how it goes down^^^^


Eddie walks onto the mat wearing the required gi pants and rash guard . Just before the match starts he yanks the waist string and the gi pants fall away to reveal ..... New 10 th planet full body tights leotard !!! Built in air pump cup of course

War bravo!! Phone Post 3.0
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