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3/29/14 1:32 AM
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DevinS
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Damn, that girl is REALLY good.
3/29/14 1:34 AM
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really great drive with her hips
3/29/14 1:41 AM
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i don't think cyborgs stock dropped much if any at all.. besides jorina baars hadn't had a muay thai fight in over 2yrs and is only 25 yrs old... must have been great for her to get an actual fight lol
3/29/14 1:48 AM
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If anything that fight shows just how good cyborg really is. Lots of heart, power and good chin. Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 1:49 AM
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Knockoutimus - Cyborg was throwing this chick around like a rag doll whenever she felt like it. The problem for Cyborg was that it wasn't an MMA match.

This really doesn't take anything away from Cyborg in my opinion. There are a ton of ignorant fans in this thread getting way too excited. Cyborg took on a 32-0 Muay Thai expert and gave her a fight.

Silva, in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight wrestling match against a top level wrestler.

GSP in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight boxing match, against a top boxer.

Jon Jones would get destroyed in a straight bjj match, against a top bjj guy.

Fedor, in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight karate match, against a top karate guy.

Stop over reacting kids. Phone Post 3.0

Only problem is that Cyborg trained at the Chute Boxe Academy. She just got beat at her own specialty. So this is nothing like the examples you used. A better analogy would be when Fedor lost to Blagoi in Sambo.
3/29/14 1:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure she won round 4. May tube round 3 also Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 1:53 AM
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CANESHARP - If anything that fight shows just how good cyborg really is. Lots of heart, power and good chin. Phone Post 3.0
Good chin? She kept getting dropped. She may not have went out fully, but had she gotten dropped like that in an MMA fight, her opponent would swarm her and possibly finish her Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 1:54 AM
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She was only legit rocked and dropped in round one. She took some hard shots like a champ later on Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 1:57 AM
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its MT not MMA

3/29/14 1:58 AM
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CANESHARP - If anything that fight shows just how good cyborg really is. Lots of heart, power and good chin. Phone Post 3.0
Good chin? She kept getting dropped. She may not have went out fully, but had she gotten dropped like that in an MMA fight, her opponent would swarm her and possibly finish her Phone Post 3.0
No chick besides maybe cat zingano will tool her like baars did in the first round with stand up.

Cyborg got better as the fight went on. And she took many hard shots but was never really hurt too bad after the first round. She popped back up and stayed aggressive the whole rest of the fight. Of course she was getting zapped by baars. The chick is 33-0! Cyborg did a good job man. She even started landing pretty good shots on baars in the last 3 Rounds Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 2:06 AM
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I'm not some fighter managing guy but it seems like that fight was not a good choice for Cyborg. Full credit to her for stepping up but fighting talented, relatively unknown opponents in a sport you usually don't compete in seems a little risky. Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 2:13 AM
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LOL at anyone equating Cyborg's performance against Jorina Baars in a kickboxing fight to how she would fare against Ronda Rousey. If Rousey beats her, it won't be due to anything she did wrong in her fight tonight. Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 2:15 AM
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You know what I find really funny? Most of the Cyborg fanboys demanded that Ronda fight her when she had less than a year of MMA experience. They said the fight would prove that Cyborg was the best female fighter on the planet. But now that Cyborg got beat at her own specialty, these same people are downplaying her own Muay Thai experience. And acting like her opponent had some huge advantage in experience. Pretty comical to see.
3/29/14 2:24 AM
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Cyborg just gave away a lot of very good tape to the Rousey camp.
3/29/14 2:29 AM
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Knockoutimus - 
Genghis84 -
Knockoutimus - Cyborg was throwing this chick around like a rag doll whenever she felt like it. The problem for Cyborg was that it wasn't an MMA match.

This really doesn't take anything away from Cyborg in my opinion. There are a ton of ignorant fans in this thread getting way too excited. Cyborg took on a 32-0 Muay Thai expert and gave her a fight.

Silva, in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight wrestling match against a top level wrestler.

GSP in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight boxing match, against a top boxer.

Jon Jones would get destroyed in a straight bjj match, against a top bjj guy.

Fedor, in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight karate match, against a top karate guy.

Stop over reacting kids. Phone Post 3.0

Only problem is that Cyborg trained at the Chute Boxe Academy. She just got beat at her own specialty. So this is nothing like the examples you used. A better analogy would be when Fedor lost to Blagoi in Sambo.
Training and competing are a lot different to me. She had only fought twice in that discipline and she caught an undefeated chick with over 30 fights.

Cyborg's dominance has always been a product of her strength and ability to overwhelm her opponents. This Muay Thai fight doesn't take away anything from her MMA credentials. That's all I'm saying. Phone Post 3.0

And how many people thought Cyborg would lose tonight? I bet you very few fans had any clue who Baars was. Notice that almost nobody mentioned her record before tonight. They obviously thought it was irrelevant, and the "baddest woman on the planet" was going to destroy her like everybody else she's faced.
3/29/14 2:29 AM
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Knockoutimus - 
Genghis84 -
Knockoutimus - Cyborg was throwing this chick around like a rag doll whenever she felt like it. The problem for Cyborg was that it wasn't an MMA match.

This really doesn't take anything away from Cyborg in my opinion. There are a ton of ignorant fans in this thread getting way too excited. Cyborg took on a 32-0 Muay Thai expert and gave her a fight.

Silva, in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight wrestling match against a top level wrestler.

GSP in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight boxing match, against a top boxer.

Jon Jones would get destroyed in a straight bjj match, against a top bjj guy.

Fedor, in his prime, would get destroyed in a straight karate match, against a top karate guy.

Stop over reacting kids. Phone Post 3.0

Only problem is that Cyborg trained at the Chute Boxe Academy. She just got beat at her own specialty. So this is nothing like the examples you used. A better analogy would be when Fedor lost to Blagoi in Sambo.
Training and competing are a lot different to me. She had only fought twice in that discipline and she caught an undefeated chick with over 30 fights.

Cyborg's dominance has always been a product of her strength and ability to overwhelm her opponents. This Muay Thai fight doesn't take away anything from her MMA credentials. That's all I'm saying. Phone Post 3.0

But do people really believe that Cyborg is going to be able to manhandle Ronda? Even Ronda directed traffic in the clinch against McMann, quickly backing her against the fence.

If anything, Ronda might thrive off of Cyborg's attempt to manhandle her.
3/29/14 2:39 AM
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Fight video anyone? Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 2:40 AM
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Well, I think it brings some people's perception of her back down to Earth.
3/29/14 2:41 AM
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Knockoutimus - 
Genghis84 - You know what I find really funny? Most of the Cyborg fanboys demanded that Ronda fight her when she had less than a year of MMA experience. They said the fight would prove that Cyborg was the best female fighter on the planet. But now that Cyborg got beat at her own specialty, these same people are downplaying her own Muay Thai experience. And acting like her opponent had some huge advantage in experience. Pretty comical to see.
It's an mma forum and those fans you speak of that claimed that a win for Cyborg over an inexperienced Rousey would prove she was the best fighter, were correct. It would have proven she was the best mma fighter if she would have won.... At the time at least.

I'm not sure you even realize how stupid your point is.

Cyborg losing in a specific art that she has limited experience in, proves that she's NOT the best in that art. You won't find anyone here arguing that she is; but it DON'T take away from her MMA capability.

Cyborg can lose 100 Muay Thai matches in a row but as long as she's still man handling and winning mma matches, she'll remain the best mixed martial artist. Phone Post 3.0

So why are the Cyborg fans talking about a huge gap in experience between her and Baars? Especially when she trained at the legendary Chute Boxe Academy? She's not some newbie to the sport. What's interesting is that her Muay Thai credentials have been talked up here for years. As has her ground game (due to her accomplishments at the IBJJF World Championships). Then Cyborg loses, and suddenly she's just a MMA fighter. Funny how that works.
3/29/14 2:45 AM
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Just watched it in YouTube. Both girls are tough. Such a difference in styles. Chris tossed her around easily but baas just has more accurate striking. Chris is fearless though stepping in against multiple time champ in just her 3rd pro Muay Thai fight. Chris definitely needs to kick more. It kind of looked like if wanderlei fought Jon jones. Great fight though Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 2:45 AM
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Can watch that gif of that dude get knee in the face by the MT chick all night
3/29/14 2:53 AM
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don't sleep on the fact that baars hadn't had a muay thai fight in 2 or 3 years.. and after beating cyborg will prolly never get a MT fight again.. but seriously respect to both fighters it was a great fight!
3/29/14 3:06 AM
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Baars is hot Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 3:07 AM
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That's was an awsome fight. Cyborg did really well Phone Post 3.0
3/29/14 3:45 AM
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Vikingknee - Fight video anyone? Phone Post 3.0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGU0hZy0FOw

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