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4/4/14 2:04 AM
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steveAKAslick
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So he used AM for exposure and that's it?!?! He should be more grateful, AM went from being known as guys that usually wrestle fucked their competition to some legit strikers...I'd say that goes both ways... Phone Post 3.0
4/4/14 8:16 AM
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GriffinQ
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MARC BULGER -  Bang's gym won't put out contenders like Team Alpha Male. TAM always had good records and was established before Bang. The guy seemed like a weirdo on JRE. Phone Post

Couldn't disagree more. Their whole team showed huge leaps in striking technique under his coaching and that traslated directly to better records and bigger opportunities.

You're crazy to think other fighters weren't paying attention and will be heading out to put in time with him at his gym.


Anyone know TAMs overall record for the duration of Bang being head coach and their record the 12-18 months previous?
Iirc, their win rate while they were favorites stayed almost exactly the same. They may have been winning a bit differently(like those body shot finishes) but their actual win/loss rate didn't change. Phone Post 3.0
4/4/14 9:33 AM
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Talking a lot, saying nothing.

It is unarguable that Ludwig elevated the team,
and if those little guys aren't pissed they lost him
for whatever reason, that is a mistake.

And DTWM for new head coach.
4/4/14 10:10 AM
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You could totally see the "Bang" effect in the TAM guys. They were all solid guys who knife how to win fights, but when Bang showed up they became finishers.

Bang made it very clear on JRE that he had bigger plans than just coaching for TAM. Not sure why this is coming as a shock to some people. Phone Post 3.0
4/4/14 4:33 PM
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braidedgooch - Hurts my head to think that Bang would need Team Alpha Male to get exposure. Phone Post 3.0

I know what you're saying, but I think this definitely elevated his profile.

I've been a long-time Bang fan, and I was super-psyched to see him having something of a post-fighting renaissance as a coach.

At least from the outside, his impact on Team Alpha Male was significant and seemingly immediate. He was always one of those guys who I liked, but never really seemed to have the tools to take his fighting career to the next level.

But, that's the kind of guy who can make for an AWESOME coach. He has a world of experience, some world-class credentials in a specific discipline, and has experienced enough victories AND defeats to know what really counts.

I'm glad he has opportunities of his own, but I'm also bummed that he's leaving a world class team that he seemed to be a PERFECT match for. He really seemed like an amazing fit for TAM and that everyone came out better for it.
4/4/14 6:36 PM
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I'll be their coach.

Get those shirts off, oil up and start a Gracie train around the gym until we are sufficiently warm. Phone Post 3.0
4/4/14 11:55 PM
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Salted Karma - To me everybody is looking for drama where there is none. They both seem like calm adults and thats it.

"Ohh! Did you see what susie was wearing, that bitch?!" - UG

Once again you are wrong. Faber is being very critical of Bang.

I seem to remember Bang saying in the next few months he was going to Colorado to start his own team, and he was then told, it's cool you can go now.

To summarize.
Bang: "I want my own team"
Faber: "Cool, then we're going to find someone permanent, later"

Oh, and whoever pointed out Bang not wearing team shirts was right. Always seemed strange to me too. Only other guy I can think of who does it, is John Danaher, but that dude is nuts and has a rashguard only policy.

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