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4/22/14 7:18 PM
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Scientists can now prove that we are all living in the past!

Our brains are amazing organs! They go through a lot of effort to make everything we perceive seem fluent so that we can make sense of it all. The truth is things are not at all what they seem, and we are all actually living in the past!

David Eagleman of the Baylor College of Medicine demonstrated that we are all living in the past by using several visual illusions to prove the point. One of them is the flash-lag effect. A light flashes when an object moves past it, but we don’t see the two as coincident; there appears to be a slight delay between the two events.

Our consciousness lags 80 milliseconds behind actual events. “When you think an event occurs it has already happened,” Eagleman said. The reason is because our brains try to reconstruct events that happen and stimuli that occur at different times, in a cohesive way so that we can have a cohesive picture of the world around us.

But sometimes the brain just can’t wait. If a hand-clapper is less than 30 meters away, you hear and see the clap happen simultaneously, but one meter further and the sound arrives more than 80 milliseconds later than the light, and the brain no longer matches what you see and hear. Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 7:19 PM
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http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/09/15/time-on-the-brain-how-you-are-always-living-in-the-past-and-other-quirks-of-perception/ Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 7:20 PM
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The clapping example they used can easily be explained by the speed of sound, not by our brain lagging Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 7:33 PM
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Things are exactly as they seem, because there is no neutral "things in themselves" to compare the way they seem to.  Or if there were, it would be impossible to describe in language!

4/22/14 7:34 PM
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And there's me thinking atom movement is detected instantly, regardless of distance. What a genius.
4/22/14 7:46 PM
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Information takes time to travel, so we can only experience the world around us as it once existed.  

4/22/14 9:13 PM
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Thank god they spent time to figure this out. Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 9:15 PM
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Jack Carter -

Information takes time to travel, so we can only experience the world around us as it once existed.  

Bingo. Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 9:16 PM
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What if c-a-t really spelled dog? Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 9:23 PM
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Jack Carter -

Information takes time to travel, so we can only experience the world around us as it once existed.  

This. Even if our neurons were firing at the speed of light it would still be a delay.

Measuring that delay is interesting though. Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 9:36 PM
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Things are exactly as they seem, because there is no neutral "things in themselves" to compare the way they seem to.  Or if there were, it would be impossible to describe in language!


Not one in a hundred OGers is going to understand any of that. 

4/22/14 9:41 PM
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Aren't most of our cells replaced every 8-9 yrs ?

You aren't even the same person who was alive 10 yrs ago.
4/22/14 9:44 PM
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I love you(no homo)

but that is some major bullshit, we could not make the quick movements, we make if we was not living at the actual point of interaction.

 

peace

4/22/14 9:47 PM
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GucciGucciGucci - Aren't most of our cells replaced every 8-9 yrs ?

You aren't even the same person who was alive 10 yrs ago.

If we have a soul, then we are the same person.

 

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4/22/14 10:16 PM
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Magnets? How the fuck do they work? Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 11:22 PM
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duckhuntgangsta - For the record we aren't living in the past we're perceiving in the past. Phone Post 3.0
That shit is deep. I'm bringing this up at group therapy Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 11:23 PM
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duckhuntgangsta - For the record we aren't living in the past we're perceiving in the past. Phone Post 3.0

But living IS perceiving.

4/22/14 11:24 PM
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time does not exist
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4/22/14 11:25 PM
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Its true. That's why we are able to sucker punch people and cop feels... You do this then yell as you run, "quit livin' in the past mutha fucka, you un-evolved Neanderthal!".

They're always like "man it sucks living 80 milliseconds at a time".
4/22/14 11:26 PM
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We could put that past away!

I wish you would step back from that leeeeddge my Fran. Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 11:38 PM
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iHazpoopz - We could put that past away!

I wish you would step back from that leeeeddge my Fran. Phone Post 3.0
He says "my Fam" as in "family"

The song is about his parents and the family dog Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 11:41 PM
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The buddhists figured this out a long time ago. Our brain keeps track of reality in slices of time and then fills in the gaps.
4/22/14 11:43 PM
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Isn't this just common sense?

Everything would be delayed due to the speed of light.

Just like the time it takes for the light of a star to reach earth, on a smaller scale, the light of the clap needs to reach your eyes and be interpreted by the electrical impulses of the brain. Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 11:47 PM
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If this theory is at all true, then we need to go BACK TO THE FUTURE!!! Phone Post 3.0
4/22/14 11:54 PM
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