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6/13/14 12:28 AM
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Blame the Japs.
6/13/14 12:31 AM
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I can just imagine one of these goat fuckers trying to taxi an F-16 and getting decimated.

Its enraging by principle but maybe getting a little equipment will bring them out of hiding. In a tank theyre just easier for us to kill.
6/13/14 12:42 AM
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Unseen - This is what people are missing. What our government wants is to draw our enemies into fighting each other. Iran is Shia and ISIS is extremist Suni.


Correct. In terms of the power structure of the region, a return to Sunni rule is pretty much a return to the status quo before Saddam Hussein pursued his goal of a Pan-Arab state by invading Kuwait. It would be better to have a secular Sunni like Saddam and ideally have him dependent on Western support, but beggars can't be choosers.

 

Unseen is incorrect. For a long time we supported Saddam because he was Sunni. The fear was a "Shiite Crescent" in the region. Iran could easily crush ISIS and put down any Sunni rebellion and create the crescent that has been so feared for decades, and they're already getting involved. We fucked Iraq up good. Invading it is proving to be one of America's worst foreign policy blunders ever.

 


You haven't said anything that contradicts what Unseen said.

Don't be surprised if your tax dollars wind up going to support ISIS (funnelled through the Saudis) in exchange for favourable energy deals. That arrangement would allow America to preserve it's influence in Iraq while appeasing people who might otherwise attack US civilians. If ISIS is ideologically motivated, and the US is motivated by political/economic concerns, there is room for them to work together. Hell, they're already working together in other places.
6/13/14 12:55 AM
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Fuck it, I'm enlisting in October anyway. Let's go back in and handle em. Cowards hurting their own people. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 12:58 AM
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Unseen - This is what people are missing. What our government wants is to draw our enemies into fighting each other. Iran is Shia and ISIS is extremist Suni.


Correct. In terms of the power structure of the region, a return to Sunni rule is pretty much a return to the status quo before Saddam Hussein pursued his goal of a Pan-Arab state by invading Kuwait. It would be better to have a secular Sunni like Saddam and ideally have him dependent on Western support, but beggars can't be choosers.

 

Unseen is incorrect. For a long time we supported Saddam because he was Sunni. The fear was a "Shiite Crescent" in the region. Iran could easily crush ISIS and put down any Sunni rebellion and create the crescent that has been so feared for decades, and they're already getting involved. We fucked Iraq up good. Invading it is proving to be one of America's worst foreign policy blunders ever.

 


You haven't said anything that contradicts what Unseen said.

Don't be surprised if your tax dollars wind up going to support ISIS (funnelled through the Saudis) in exchange for favourable energy deals. That arrangement would allow America to preserve it's influence in Iraq while appeasing people who might otherwise attack US civilians. If ISIS is ideologically motivated, and the US is motivated by political/economic concerns, there is room for them to work together. Hell, they're already working together in other places.

No.
6/13/14 1:07 AM
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It looks like we missed a great opportunity to get rid of a lot of headaches, This is like passing up the chance to sterilizes everyone at the 15 annual gathering of the Juggalos.

6/13/14 1:11 AM
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I'm not sure what's more of a basket case, Africa or the ME.
6/13/14 1:12 AM
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6/13/14 1:17 AM
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RELIGION


Needs to be questioned, criticized and brought to the light of what it causes and what it poisons.



Sunni, Shiite, Christian, Jewish

Religion apologetic people and the "faith based" worldview are purely responsible for this and it needs to be said....and stopped.

The religious will defer this problem as a political one, one of international relations .....IT ISN'T...It's a religious clusterfuck...take away the religion and the problem would completely cease at most and be reasonably managed in the least...Religion is the roadblock of rational discourse.
6/13/14 1:22 AM
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cross3dout - Fuck it, I'm enlisting in October anyway. Let's go back in and handle em. Cowards hurting their own people. Phone Post 3.0
You bombed the country into a hell hole, killed hundred of thousands of people and made all of this possible. You really have no room to get all righteous and shit. Seriously. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 2:00 AM
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crazydave - Those Toyotas are great fucking trucks. Phone Post 3.0
I'd love to know where they got hundreds of brand new Hiluxes from. Feeding and arming all those guys wouldn't be cheap either, the "insurgents" are looking like a semi professional army now, and someone's put a lot of money behind them. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 2:28 AM
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6/13/14 2:37 AM
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crazydave - Those Toyotas are great fucking trucks. Phone Post 3.0
I'd love to know where they got hundreds of brand new Hiluxes from. Feeding and arming all those guys wouldn't be cheap either, the "insurgents" are looking like a semi professional army now, and someone's put a lot of money behind them. Phone Post 3.0

Seriously where are these shitheads getting brand spanking new Toyotas?

A lot of rich Saudis and other shitheads funding these assholes
6/13/14 2:40 AM
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They don't have to be brand new:

6/13/14 2:54 AM
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6/13/14 2:57 AM
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^^^ damn hubris. is that you in the video still?

6/13/14 3:24 AM
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bwhahaha.. the goof who set the cigs on fire ran off into the crowd..
6/13/14 4:10 AM
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cross3dout - Fuck it, I'm enlisting in October anyway. Let's go back in and handle em. Cowards hurting their own people. Phone Post 3.0
You bombed the country into a hell hole, killed hundred of thousands of people and made all of this possible. You really have no room to get all righteous and shit. Seriously. Phone Post 3.0
What's this you shit?

You sound like a pussy. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 6:45 AM
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6/13/14 8:22 AM
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Vitor29 -
cross3dout - Fuck it, I'm enlisting in October anyway. Let's go back in and handle em. Cowards hurting their own people. Phone Post 3.0
You bombed the country into a hell hole, killed hundred of thousands of people and made all of this possible. You really have no room to get all righteous and shit. Seriously. Phone Post 3.0
What's this you shit?

You sound like a pussy. Phone Post 3.0

and you sound like a retard, just like crossedout.
Lol fuck you pickle dick, keep hiding behind a computer posting tough words. Let real men and women handle the worlds problems, you stay comfy right where you are. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 9:21 AM
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Love the blame America crowd. Where was the outrage when Maliki asked us to gtfo? So we did as he asked and left and now he's getting fucked. How exactly is it our fault? Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 9:55 AM
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spam909 - Love the blame America crowd. Where was the outrage when Maliki asked us to gtfo? So we did as he asked and left and now he's getting fucked. How exactly is it our fault? Phone Post 3.0

It's not our fault, it can't be. They've been fighting for millennia despite our latest attempts to help them over there (which had as much to do with helping ourselves, or more).
6/13/14 9:59 AM
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spam909 - Love the blame America crowd. Where was the outrage when Maliki asked us to gtfo? So we did as he asked and left and now he's getting fucked. How exactly is it our fault? Phone Post 3.0

It's not our fault, it can't be. They've been fighting for millennia despite our latest attempts to help them over there (which had as much to do with helping ourselves, or more).

In any case its not exactly great for American credibility when we spend close to 2 trillion and 4000 + lives and achieve next to nothing.
6/13/14 10:11 AM
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need a squadron of A-10 thunderbolts followed by a few AC-130 gunships to clean up this mess...

 

I love both of those planes. Yes love! Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 11:10 AM
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Those Isis forces are outmanned by Iraqi government troops by almost than 30 to 1 and still manage to wreck havoc. Either they are some bad motherfuckers or the government troops are totally inept.

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