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6/13/14 12:11 AM
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CombatVette49
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Iraq can go to heck Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 12:12 AM
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send rumsfeld and cheney

6/13/14 12:37 AM
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I can think of 3000 or so reasons why we should kick their asses a second time (9/11 2001 some of you might remember it). Only this time do the job properly and not dicktuck because of Barry Soetoro and 'Hope and CHange'.
6/13/14 12:37 AM
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Samoa -

Wasn't worth it last time, this time, next time.

This. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 12:43 AM
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Never should have gone in to begin with but I think we left prematurely. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:00 AM
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amorphous - Never should have gone in to begin with but I think we left prematurely. Phone Post 3.0

we left because of the iraqi goverments refusal to grant our troops immunity.

people seem to forget the gravity of what happened in iraq. we had no right to go there and effectively destroyed their country.

its a strategic country to us and its up to us to tip it into our balance. how we go about it is complex. but now we have major room to bargain with their government to give our military free reign. we have the capability to destroy the opposition the only problem is the capability of their military infrastructre to act without a heavy us ground force
6/13/14 1:06 AM
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Zekolas - So the Republicans are getting hard on in their pants at the prospect of doing another ground assault/invasion and then occupation of Iraq

Is it worth sending people over there to die; would you want your son/daughter to be part of the 2nd occupation of Iraq?

I hate to say this but it is only worth it if they literally kill pretty much everyone. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:11 AM
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It's not our fight. We have been involved with them long enough that someone should come to the realization that they are a society that wants to kill each other over sand dunes and being over there for as long as we were didn't change a single thing. We are not the guardians of third world countries. Even with coordinated air strikes it will be for nothing. As soon as we stop they will go back to killing each other. The only that will stop them is when there are no more of them left to kill. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:11 AM
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Zekolas - So the Republicans are getting hard on in their pants at the prospect of doing another ground assault/invasion and then occupation of Iraq

Is it worth sending people over there to die; would you want your son/daughter to be part of the 2nd occupation of Iraq?

I hate to say this but it is only worth it if they literally kill pretty much everyone. Phone Post 3.0
Care to define everyone? We already kill thousands of innocent people so who is "everyone" that you mean? Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:12 AM
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Rules of engagement need to change. I say let it go to shit.

To me it is not worth one more American life. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:13 AM
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Invisible Lats Syndrome - I can think of 3000 or so reasons why we should kick their asses a second time (9/11 2001 some of you might remember it). Only this time do the job properly and not dicktuck because of Barry Soetoro and 'Hope and CHange'.
Whoa there rough rider, what did Saddam have to do with 911 again? Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:14 AM
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Samoa -
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Zekolas - So the Republicans are getting hard on in their pants at the prospect of doing another ground assault/invasion and then occupation of Iraq

Is it worth sending people over there to die; would you want your son/daughter to be part of the 2nd occupation of Iraq?

I hate to say this but it is only worth it if they literally kill pretty much everyone. Phone Post 3.0
Care to define everyone? We already kill thousands of innocent people so who is "everyone" that you mean? Phone Post 3.0
It was a joke. My point was that unless you basically start from scratch there , intervention will never work . Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:21 AM
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akira323 - they shouldnt have kicked us out in the first place. now they want our help. regardless i do believe we have an obligation to them because of what we did to their country.

ideally if we could provide coordinated air support with their troops to fight the opposition off, i could maybe support that. of course depending on the resolve of their soldiers which at this point is questionable.

we need to take shinseki out of retirement. hes the only who could really figure this out
I agree one 100% with the first two paragraphs. I don't know enough to agree or disagree with the third. Phone Post 3.0

shinseki was the outspoken army chief of staff during the iraqi invasion. he knew the number of troops needed for a solid occupation of iraq would be in the 100's of thousands. he knew this from his experience as a commander in nato during kosovo. he's also a decorated veteran during his service in vietnam.

when he spoke out against rumsfeld about the number of troops needed for the occupation of iraq he was ousted. later on when shit was going bad in iraq various genereals said shinseki was indeed correct during a congressional hearing

One of the few top army generals with integrity during that era.
Same guy that just stepped down from being head of the VA?

Not throwing dirt on him or anything. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:32 AM
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Drunkie -

you can't help people that won't help themselves. do we go bomb them everytime there military runs away from people? if they are not willing to stand up and fight you can't help them. unless they want us there full time and they didn't want that so 

fuck em

They didn't want you there in the first place, but you kind of insisted thus making this whole mess possible. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:35 AM
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baj54 - It's not our fight. We have been involved with them long enough that someone should come to the realization that they are a society that wants to kill each other over sand dunes and being over there for as long as we were didn't change a single thing. We are not the guardians of third world countries. Even with coordinated air strikes it will be for nothing. As soon as we stop they will go back to killing each other. The only that will stop them is when there are no more of them left to kill. Phone Post 3.0
Funny, this shit wasn't going on when saddam was in power. I love how some of you dumb fucks just willfully ignore the fact that your country destabilized Iraq. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:39 AM
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Carpet bomb the entire Middle East if you want to avoid this happening again. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 1:40 AM
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Do they still have oil?

6/13/14 1:52 AM
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Starve the sunnis to death, and then all will be well again over there Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 2:18 AM
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Zekolas - So the Republicans are getting hard on in their pants at the prospect of doing another ground assault/invasion and then occupation of Iraq

Is it worth sending people over there to die; would you want your son/daughter to be part of the 2nd occupation of Iraq?

Please list the republicans who are saying we need boots on the ground in Iraq now. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 2:19 AM
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Drunkie -

you can't help people that won't help themselves. do we go bomb them everytime there military runs away from people? if they are not willing to stand up and fight you can't help them. unless they want us there full time and they didn't want that so 

fuck em

They didn't want you there in the first place, but you kind of insisted thus making this whole mess possible. Phone Post 3.0
Maybe Saddam should have obeyed the commands of the international community. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 2:25 AM
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Been reading Robert MacNamara's autobiography about his time as secretary of defense. A lot of this middle eastern stuff sounds EXACTLY like Vietnam. The domino effect isn't real. Phone Post 3.0
6/13/14 2:30 AM
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Drunkie -

you can't help people that won't help themselves. do we go bomb them everytime there military runs away from people? if they are not willing to stand up and fight you can't help them. unless they want us there full time and they didn't want that so 

fuck em

They didn't want you there in the first place, but you kind of insisted thus making this whole mess possible. Phone Post 3.0
Maybe Saddam should have obeyed the commands of the international community. Phone Post 3.0

Thank god we found all those wmd he refused to turn over.
6/13/14 2:33 AM
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6/13/14 2:33 AM
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what a fucking cluster fuck.

6/13/14 2:33 AM
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Maybe if we hadn't pulled out early like a virgin on prom night we wouldn't be in this fucking situation.

Men do what needs to be done. Obama compromises and panders. This is the result.

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