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6/24/14 1:00 PM
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fan4000 -  I think it's her more than just the judo. I think if she would have wrestled, competed in bjj, or boxed etc. she would still be dominant in nearly every aspect. She has a mentality that no one in her division can match. Plus she also seems to be athletically superior to anyone we've seen her fight.

I also after watching a lot I think that "judo hips" suit women better than men. Men are more explosive than women so Judo doesn't seem to work as well in men's mma. Phone Post

You do have a point here... the center of gravity of most women is closer to  their hips (whereas men's is closer to their chest, around the sternum).

6/24/14 1:06 PM
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Ronda def. has a big mouth but at the same time she makes a good point about the effectiveness of Judo ground work (those that do practice it).

I have to say I was always shocked to read over the years how these BJJ blue belts were tapping Judo blacks, but I also admit that many Judo black belts are not good at all (some get it after 1 year), they are just starting out.

At the same time, if you come from some of the more competitive European dojos where they do solid groundwork, and you compete regularly in Judo, many of these guys are hardcore: think NCAA D-1 college wrestler + BJJ purple/brown belt level. A regular BJJ black belt is just not going to tap these guys easily at all and may even find himself in bad positions.

Judo is a fantastic base, builds amazing athletes and if the dojo does a lot of ground work, then these are bad bad man (think Flavio Canto, Nastula, etc). I think this is widely accepted even in Brazil.
6/24/14 1:14 PM
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Gabi Garcia chuckles to herself. Kyra Gracie too.
6/24/14 1:14 PM
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Rhonda would die. It would be like the mountain crushing the red vipers head from GOT. Phone Post 3.0
6/24/14 1:22 PM
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judom - Ronda def. has a big mouth but at the same time she makes a good point about the effectiveness of Judo ground work (those that do practice it).

I have to say I was always shocked to read over the years how these BJJ blue belts were tapping Judo blacks, but I also admit that many Judo black belts are not good at all (some get it after 1 year), they are just starting out.

At the same time, if you come from some of the more competitive European dojos where they do solid groundwork, and you compete regularly in Judo, many of these guys are hardcore: think NCAA D-1 college wrestler + BJJ purple/brown belt level. A regular BJJ black belt is just not going to tap these guys easily at all and may even find himself in bad positions.

Judo is a fantastic base, builds amazing athletes and if the dojo does a lot of ground work, then these are bad bad man (think Flavio Canto, Nastula, etc). I think this is widely accepted even in Brazil.

No offense, but where are these mythical judo guys?

Here is olympian Rick Hawn getting subbed by a guy who started training bjj in 2009.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIBIxZ3ZfLo

Also, there is a guy in Westchester who was on the French National Team, he has stated that he hates newaza and never really trained it.
6/24/14 1:27 PM
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KidPittsburgh - 'Gabby is not a woman'- Ronda

'Gabby and Cyborg do not take PEDs, they just work hard' - the UG
6/24/14 1:29 PM
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perhaps with very strict steroid testing ronda could... https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3803/10360509035_2c51f64616_z.jpg photo gabiromulo.jpghttp://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/wanderlei-silva-gabi-garcia-tuf-brazil.jpg

Wanderlei was trt'd up in the pic, and she's way more jacked! Looks like a Brazilian science project. Phone Post 3.0

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/27/5552910/gabi-garcia-tests-positive-for-fertility-drug-stripped-of-2013-worlds

Both were juiced up.
6/24/14 1:30 PM
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95% of competitors in UFC and BJJ take Peds....

I think invoking Gabi is a little unrealistic.  I dont think you need to go to that extreme to find a woman that can beat RR soundly in grappling.  Like I said, Nicollini would beat her.  Im sure others would as well.  Girls like Dern or Bia...

6/24/14 1:46 PM
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That Brazilian chick from TUF was the first person I thought if when I read what Ronda said. Phone Post 3.0
6/24/14 1:54 PM
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6/24/14 1:54 PM
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Gabi looks like she's the love child of Tormen Giantsbane and the bear he fucked. I think she'd give Ronda some problems. Phone Post 3.0
6/24/14 2:15 PM
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judom - Ronda def. has a big mouth but at the same time she makes a good point about the effectiveness of Judo ground work (those that do practice it).

I have to say I was always shocked to read over the years how these BJJ blue belts were tapping Judo blacks, but I also admit that many Judo black belts are not good at all (some get it after 1 year), they are just starting out.

At the same time, if you come from some of the more competitive European dojos where they do solid groundwork, and you compete regularly in Judo, many of these guys are hardcore: think NCAA D-1 college wrestler + BJJ purple/brown belt level. A regular BJJ black belt is just not going to tap these guys easily at all and may even find himself in bad positions.

Judo is a fantastic base, builds amazing athletes and if the dojo does a lot of ground work, then these are bad bad man (think Flavio Canto, Nastula, etc). I think this is widely accepted even in Brazil.

No offense, but where are these mythical judo guys?

Here is olympian Rick Hawn getting subbed by a guy who started training bjj in 2009.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIBIxZ3ZfLo

Also, there is a guy in Westchester who was on the French National Team, he has stated that he hates newaza and never really trained it.

 

Here you go.

 

6/24/14 2:18 PM
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You could get jacked off a cycle of Gabi's sweat. Phone Post 3.0
6/24/14 2:26 PM
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TheJudge - Gabi Garcia chuckles to herself. Kyra Gracie too.
As well as McKenzie Dern Phone Post 3.0
6/24/14 2:34 PM
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I'd pay a lot of money to see country vs country team submission only gi matches against this guys: 2013 World Team Judo Champions from Georgia:

http://www.worldsport.ge/uploads/photo/main/120/120987.jpg

Any of you guys really thinks it would be easy thing to tap them? Even for BJJ black belts?

Judo armbars highlight for those saying there's no ground training at international judo level:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LS7aM2yO74
6/24/14 2:39 PM
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and something more recent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa_W6e6qhVY
6/24/14 2:49 PM
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No.

Sometimes Rhonda should just kick back, relax and enjoy a nice, warm mug of STFU. Phone Post 3.0
6/24/14 2:54 PM
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No wonder Joe Rogan "dissed" the UG. Olympic medalist in Judo who has trained grappling all her life believes she can beat any other grappler in the world... what a shocker.

Look at the wording she said I 'can' beat any women. Seems pretty reasonable to me. As usual bunch of nerds online disrespecting people who have actually put the hard work in.

People should check out the video's of Ronda grappling BJ in the gi she is legit.
6/24/14 2:55 PM
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I find it so funny how riled up you guys get over her comments. She believes she could beat anyone. And all of you pointing to Gabby is hilarious. She is clearly abusing steroids. But hey if the undefeated champ who is highly decorated in Judo thinks she can beat the best BJJ girls what is wrong with that?

Personally I'd love to see her in some grappling matches. If she wins awesome and if she loses, also awesome! Phone Post 3.0
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Kepler - No wonder Joe Rogan "dissed" the UG. Olympic medalist in Judo who has trained grappling all her life believes she can beat any other grappler in the world... what a shocker.

Look at the wording she said I 'can' beat any women. Seems pretty reasonable to me. As usual bunch of nerds online disrespecting people who have actually put the hard work in.

People should check out the video's of Ronda grappling BJ in the gi she is legit.
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6/24/14 3:37 PM
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Animal Mother - Rhonda would die. It would be like the mountain crushing the red vipers head from GOT. Phone Post 3.0
Thanks for the spoiler asshole. I had the whole season dvrd and was going to watch it on my first day off in six months. I had been looking forward to it forever as the one bright spot in an overworked and underpaid life. Thanks a lot dickface. Phone Post 3.0

someone is a little cranky.

6/24/14 3:39 PM
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Kepler - No wonder Joe Rogan "dissed" the UG. Olympic medalist in Judo who has trained grappling all her life believes she can beat any other grappler in the world... what a shocker.

Look at the wording she said I 'can' beat any women. Seems pretty reasonable to me. As usual bunch of nerds online disrespecting people who have actually put the hard work in.

People should check out the video's of Ronda grappling BJ in the gi she is legit.

theyre on Youtube?
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Kepler - No wonder Joe Rogan "dissed" the UG. Olympic medalist in Judo who has trained grappling all her life believes she can beat any other grappler in the world... what a shocker.

Look at the wording she said I 'can' beat any women. Seems pretty reasonable to me. As usual bunch of nerds online disrespecting people who have actually put the hard work in.

People should check out the video's of Ronda grappling BJ in the gi she is legit.
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Rofl careful bro I just lost a special green arrow because some emotional nerd couldn't handle I had a different opinion.

Also LOL @ Megaclitoris :D

Do not have to pay for events or anything here in England but I would happily donate money for such a noble cause.
6/24/14 3:46 PM
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Animal Mother - Rhonda would die. It would be like the mountain crushing the red vipers head from GOT. Phone Post 3.0
Thanks for the spoiler asshole. I had the whole season dvrd and was going to watch it on my first day off in six months. I had been looking forward to it forever as the one bright spot in an overworked and underpaid life. Thanks a lot dickface. Phone Post 3.0

someone is a little cranky.


Thanks TampabayMMA, you inconsiderate maniac, I had skipped over Animal Mother's post as soon as I read mountain, but my eyes automatically scanned the rest of it after you quoted it, I had airlocked the entire season on VHS tapes using an impulse sealer and planned to cut them open like a time capsule in 2019 as a gift for my 43rd birthday, now I have no reason to live.

6/24/14 3:49 PM
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I love her spunk/attitude. 

But she isn't even the best female at her craft (Judo), so any talk about her being the best at another is kind of silly in my opinion.

 


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