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7/7/14 10:03 AM
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Brasco - Quality vs quaninty

How many former UFC champs did silva beat ? Cause weidman has beaten two already .... I think they are even now
Lol. Dudes like you are why Weidman can't buy fans. Why do you have to crap on another guy to boost yours. Chris has fought 2 guys in 2 years. Calm your ass down.... Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 10:44 AM
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Brasco - Quality vs quaninty

How many former UFC champs did silva beat ? Cause weidman has beaten two already .... I think they are even now
Lol. Dudes like you are why Weidman can't buy fans. Why do you have to crap on another guy to boost yours. Chris has fought 2 guys in 2 years. Calm your ass down.... Phone Post 3.0
Actually, Anderson beat 3 former ufc champs.

Franklin, Vitor and Forrest. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 11:08 AM
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I competed against the guy so even if he only defends the belt half as many times, never steps up a weight class, and never had near the HL reel of finishes he is the GOAT!!!! Deal with it.

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7/7/14 11:14 AM
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Beating the goat doesn't make you the goat. He's could get there eventually but he's still got a ways to go. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 11:25 AM
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Um no. First he has to have a 7 year win streak with incredible matrix style knock outs. Hes a great fighter but hes no GOAT. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 11:31 AM
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Brasco - Quality vs quaninty

How many former UFC champs did silva beat ? Cause weidman has beaten two already .... I think they are even now
Lol. Dudes like you are why Weidman can't buy fans. Why do you have to crap on another guy to boost yours. Chris has fought 2 guys in 2 years. Calm your ass down.... Phone Post 3.0
Actually, Anderson beat 3 former ufc champs.

Franklin, Vitor and Forrest. Phone Post 3.0
And a pride 2 division champion.

And the #1 ranked WW in the world at the time.

He has more top 10 wins that Chris has fights... Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 11:43 AM
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FreightTrain - Actually, Silva is the GOAT.

Silva went undefeated for almost 7 years defending the title 14 times maintaining a 16 fight win streak.

Lets at-least wait a couple of years to see if Weidman can come close to the legend.

Silva reigned supreme of the MW division when it was the WEAKEST division in MMA history

Anderson's first official title defense was against Marquardt LMAO

Chris's has already defended against Anderson AND MACHIDA

NO comparison

Quality>>>quantity

Id be ok with people arguing that Chris has already been more impressive, or that he has started out his run FAR SUPERIOR to Andersons'

IF Chris beats Vitor, Mousasi and Jacara, which IS LIKELY THAN Chris will have already had a far superior run as MW champ...and it wont even be close


Silva didnt pick and choose his opponents, he fought whomever they put in front of him and defended his title for almost 7 years against 14 opponents, even fighting a 205lb Irvin. 

Just not sure how winning a decision over a 36yo Machida is quality.

Theres no way to be sure, but I feel comfortable in saying that Silva would probably have finished Machida in a much more decisive fashion.

Once Weidman goes undefeated for 5 years and defends say, 10 times, I'd feel comfortbale in saying that hes getting close to the GOAT.

That 36 year old machida has done some fucking amazing things lately... kind of make it sound like he fought a washed up old man when you say it like that. Machida was as game as he ever was. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 11:50 AM
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FreightTrain - Actually, Silva is the GOAT.

Silva went undefeated for almost 7 years defending the title 14 times maintaining a 16 fight win streak.

Lets at-least wait a couple of years to see if Weidman can come close to the legend.

Silva reigned supreme of the MW division when it was the WEAKEST division in MMA history

Anderson's first official title defense was against Marquardt LMAO

Chris's has already defended against Anderson AND MACHIDA

NO comparison

Quality>>>quantity

Id be ok with people arguing that Chris has already been more impressive, or that he has started out his run FAR SUPERIOR to Andersons'

IF Chris beats Vitor, Mousasi and Jacara, which IS LIKELY THAN Chris will have already had a far superior run as MW champ...and it wont even be close


Silva didnt pick and choose his opponents, he fought whomever they put in front of him and defended his title for almost 7 years against 14 opponents, even fighting a 205lb Irvin. 

Just not sure how winning a decision over a 36yo Machida is quality.

Theres no way to be sure, but I feel comfortable in saying that Silva would probably have finished Machida in a much more decisive fashion.

Once Weidman goes undefeated for 5 years and defends say, 10 times, I'd feel comfortbale in saying that hes getting close to the GOAT.

That 36 year old machida has done some fucking amazing things lately... kind of make it sound like he fought a washed up old man when you say it like that. Machida was as game as he ever was. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah let's not shit on Machida to downplay chris. Machida is a beast. As is anderson.

That said beating two beasts does not even come CLOSE to what Anderson accomplished.

Beat Vitor and Jacare and he is clearly second in line behind Andy. Defend a few more times after that, maybe move up a division for a couple fun foghts, and we can talk about him being the MW GOAT. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 1:40 PM
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Brigham - Ugh just no. It's all about beating people in their primes. Anderson is past his, Machida is past his, and Vitor is past his perhaps. Anderson beat everyone in the primes of their careers. Phone Post 3.0
The last 4 opponents Anderson had before he fought Weidman the first time were Vitor, Chael, Okami, and Bonnar. Anderson looked spectacular in those fights and no one was claiming that he was past his prime.

No one was saying Machida was past his prime when he moved down to MW and KOed Munoz and shut down Mousasi.

So just because they now lose to Weidman, don't use the excuse that they are past their primes because no one was saying "Wow, they're past their primes but they're still winning." Phone Post 3.0

Correct. Machida was def looking good vs Munoz and Moussasi, good enough to be in peak form. Anderson I would say may have been good enough to beat most MWs by the time he lost to Weidman, I think Weidman was just better but he was around 38 i think when he lost the first time and by KTFO, i think that made him quite a bit older over night. "Prime X" is also a grey debate but i think Weidman beat both when they were at least still or close enough to their primes.
7/8/14 1:32 AM
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Lol this has to be a troll thread. I dont see how anyone can place weidman over anderson or even as GOAT, considering they wouldnt even post Jon Jones as GOAT. And he has accomplished a lot more than Chris.
7/8/14 2:46 AM
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7/8/14 2:48 AM
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what I love most about stupid statements like OP:

"this guy [who is hot right now] and this guy [who is ok right now] are way better than those guys [some guys that at the time were considered top notch, but not anymore]"

lol.
7/8/14 2:57 AM
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Are you the concrete dude? Phone Post 3.0

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