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http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jack-slack-how-weidman-solved-the-machida-riddle

Good stuff from Jack Slack as always.

7/7/14 10:26 AM
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Another great article.

7/7/14 10:34 AM
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Wonder boy in his training camp was the key in keeping Chris calm and not stupefied by machida's faints and movement.
7/7/14 10:37 AM
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7/7/14 10:41 AM
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Weidman did what he always does. Steady pressure, mixing up his takedowns with strikes, and keeping his hands high. Awesome performance.

7/7/14 10:45 AM
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Nice post! Let's see more stuff like this on the UG!

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7/7/14 10:51 AM
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Excellent article as usual. Phone Post 3.0
7/7/14 10:54 AM
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Really well done Jack. You have a genuine world class analytic ability.
7/7/14 11:01 AM
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Dougie - 

Nice post! Let's see more stuff like this on the UG!

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He used to post most of his articles here himself, but recently he has only posted sporadically. I hope he starts posting them himself regularly again.

7/7/14 11:39 AM
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7/7/14 11:52 AM
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good stuff

7/7/14 1:29 PM
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Later. The only other time I've seen Machida startled was vs Shogun.
7/7/14 1:38 PM
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I thought he used the Shogun game plan...IMO
7/7/14 1:39 PM
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7/7/14 1:45 PM
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Though i think Machida beat Davis, Davis still showed that Machida's riddum could be off set although Davis was basically countering Machida's attacks with tds. Weidman did a lot more than that. He took away Machida's ideal range, that 2nd step that Jack mentions. Think the Bader fight where Bader gets met with a Machida punch when trying to take that 2nd or extra step to close the distance.

With Shogun, he spent 5 rounds the first fight kicking Machida's legs and body. Then in the 2nd fight, he came at him hard with punches but then countered Machida off his lunging left straight punch.

Weidman did something a bit different, he dictated the fight from the get-go by taking away Machida's space with constance but intelligent pressure and kept Machida thinking about striking AND tds. Machida did not have to worry about that with either Shogun or Davis - those guys really only threatened in one area. Weidman is the most rounded fighter to come along since Jones and GSP.
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Wasa-B - Though i think Machida beat Davis, Davis still showed that Machida's riddum could be off set although Davis was basically countering Machida's attacks with tds. Weidman did a lot more than that. He took away Machida's ideal range, that 2nd step that Jack mentions. Think the Bader fight where Bader gets met with a Machida punch when trying to take that 2nd or extra step to close the distance.

With Shogun, he spent 5 rounds the first fight kicking Machida's legs and body. Then in the 2nd fight, he came at him hard with punches but then countered Machida off his lunging left straight punch.

Weidman did something a bit different, he dictated the fight from the get-go by taking away Machida's space with constance but intelligent pressure and kept Machida thinking about striking AND tds. Machida did not have to worry about that with either Shogun or Davis - those guys really only threatened in one area. Weidman is the most rounded fighter to come along since Jones and GSP.
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Great read as always, Jack!
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talkischeap - Was it really a riddle? Phone Post 3.0
Well it is a very unique. Even other karate practitioners have different styles and stances in MMA. His timing, distance, wide stance, feints, movement, speed, etc. all play into that. The problem is his style largely relies on capitalizing on guys mistakes to open up with attacks. Weidman hardly made any of those, so he wasn't able to exploit them.

Great performance by Chris. Phone Post 3.0
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talkischeap - Was it really a riddle? Phone Post 3.0
Well it is a very unique. Even other karate practitioners have different styles and stances in MMA. His timing, distance, wide stance, feints, movement, speed, etc. all play into that. The problem is his style largely relies on capitalizing on guys mistakes to open up with attacks. Weidman hardly made any of those, so he wasn't able to exploit them.

Great performance by Chris. Phone Post 3.0
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7/7/14 3:35 PM
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talkischeap - Was it really a riddle? Phone Post 3.0

When a striker like Moussasi cant figure it out, duh.

Also, if it were anyone else, Weidman would have likely finished them. Weidman still said Machida was unpredictable at the post fighter presser.
7/7/14 4:41 PM
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great article.
Watching the fight Chris came off a bit slow to my completely untrained eye but made up for it with physical size getting him into position.
Granted I only saw the fight once during the PPV it seemed as he was doing well at getting in to a position where he didn't really need to strike quickly per say.
Not a darting in and out type of movement but more from his pressure just making openings in a retreating opponent where lightning fast speed was not needed.

The champ and his style will make for some fun fights to watch
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Billyz - great article.
Watching the fight Chris came off a bit slow to my completely untrained eye but made up for it with physical size getting him into position.
Granted I only saw the fight once during the PPV it seemed as he was doing well at getting in to a position where he didn't really need to strike quickly per say.
Not a darting in and out type of movement but more from his pressure just making openings in a retreating opponent where lightning fast speed was not needed.

The champ and his style will make for some fun fights to watch

Yeah, Chris is def not particularly fast but you're right, he's great at positioning himself and controlling the distance and also putting intelligent pressure on the opponent. Add to that, his reaction time is actually pretty good i think. Machida is also actually not that fast either, Jack's even got an article talking about it ("the Illusion of Speed") because he's able to catch guys while they are attacking on a longer distance - the 2nd step that Jack talks about. But Machida is also unpredictable and has added more tools to his arsenal. He also willed his way to R4. That was not classic Machida of course, he had to take the fight to Weidman and he did.

Weidman's also got longer reach than Anderson and he's bigger and stronger. Not sure if people realize how big Weidman is at MW. Sure, he looks huge and he is but he is also long, add to that the fact that he can strike and wreslte and knows how to mix it up and you got great generalship like the GSP's and Jones'.
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