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7/8/14 6:06 PM
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Fans are drawn to mixed martial arts for those moments that make the crowd gasp "WOLY F@$%ING %#!T!!?!"

Sunday night at the TUF 19 Finale fans had a different reaction as BJ Penn assumed precious little offense from an upright stance vs. Frankie Edgar - "WHAT THE F@$%??!?"

Penn's long time coach Jason Parillo appeared recently on The MMA Hour and said that he was confused too.

Some suggested that the cut to 145, BJ's first in his career was potentially the cause of the poor showing. However, Parillo said he noticed the new stand up style during the filming of TUF 19, and offered his opinion, but said Penn was confident in it. So, not wanting to harm a friendship, Parillo let it go.

"I would never in a million years develop that new style," said Parillo as transcribed by Shaun Al-Shatti  for MMAFighting. "Never in a million years.

"I got called a week before the fight to work his corner for the fight, so I, myself, hadn't spent time in camp at all with B.J. ... I answered yes automatically because he's my friend. So I didn't know. They explained to me kind of the gameplan the week of the fight, and I was actually rooming with his boxing coach the whole week, so I was listening to him, talking to him about what they were doing. At that point, it's not my position to make any adjustments, like, ‘no, no, no, let's do this, let's do that,' because it's too late for that. It's too late. He's been doing this s--- for two years. What, am I going to come in the week of the fight and change a whole gameplan? Change a whole style around? That's not going to happen, nor does B.J. want me to make that happen."

"Everybody and their mother is calling me up going, what the f---? They're going, what the f---, Jay? Was is that? And I'm like, I don't know... But you know, that's B.J. B.J. gets something set in his head and he likes it, and apparently it was working for him in the gym, so he wanted to go from there.

"I wanted him bending his knees. It's called sitting down on your punch in boxing, and that way you can use your legs to help with your head movement, help with your footwork, help with all this stuff. He just says he doesn't like that style anymore because it made him too tired. So at the end of the day, what can I do? He's my friend and I've got to support him. I always have and I always will."

"In hindsight, let me tell you this. I come from the game of boxing, okay? Any fighter, any great ex-champion that decides to retire and then wants to make a comeback, two years later they want to make a comeback, their management, their promoters, whoever it is... usually if you're a manager, your main job you do is to shake the rust off this kid. You don't put him in there with the No. 2 guy in the world... It doesn't make sense."

"That goes back to how a fighter is handled. It's always going to go back to that. You've still got to protect your guy, but B.J. steers his own ship most of the time. B.J., it's hard, he's not a guy who really... he likes that challenge. Who's the best? F---, I want to fight that guy. ‘Who's the best? Oh, Cain Velasquez? I want to fight him.' He's 230 pounds, B.J. ‘I know! F--- him! I'll kick his f---ing ass!' That's part of why everybody f---ing loves him, let's be honest. But yes, I do believe he could've had a way better stretch."


7/8/14 6:10 PM
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Good on Parillo for agreeing he's a yes-man. At least he's honest.
7/8/14 6:12 PM
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i came here looking for a gameplan, or an explanation of bjs weird style.  leaving disappointed.

7/8/14 6:13 PM
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So who is BJ's boxing coach? I mean "I was rooming with his boxing coach", who is he talking about?

7/8/14 6:13 PM
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A week before his fight? And that's his corner? Explains a lot, fucking retarded Phone Post 3.0
7/8/14 6:14 PM
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"So, not wanting to harm a friendship, Parillo let it go."

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"I answered yes automatically because he's my friend."

So... he's a yes man?

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Not bending your knees because it makes you too tired....did he not drop the weight right? His conditioning should have been on point for this Phone Post 3.0
7/8/14 6:16 PM
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7/8/14 6:17 PM
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7/8/14 6:18 PM
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Wackadoodles....
7/8/14 6:30 PM
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Actually that seems like the most believable explanation.

 

Fucking BJ, BJ gonna BJ man. Gotta love his attitude....

 

BJ, you're a 165lber

 

"So"

BJ, you're past your prime

 

"So"

 

BJ, you've never fought at 145 in your life....

 

"So"

 

BJ, you haven't fought in almost 2 years, and you're going against a guy who is #2 in the world, very close to #1, and he has 2 wins over you....

 

"So"

 

BJ, you've had a style that has worked your entire career. You haven't fought in almost 2 years, you're going up against a killer, and you are changing your style to something you've never tried out in the cage before....

 

"So"

 

 

 

That's BJ.  He believes he could kick King Kong's ass. Even though he's wrong sometimes, I love him for believing in himself so much.

7/8/14 6:32 PM
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Dana White Vic Mackey - In reality, if the BJ who coached TUF 5 coached HIMSELF for that fight, he would Andy Wang himself... Which is really quite sad. No disrespect but if you re watch the episode where Andy gets booted off it's because he didnt listen to his coaches during their fight.. Essentially what BJ has done.

I love BJ don't get me wrong. Phone Post 3.0

No that's a fair point. I remember he was calling for specific instructions for Andy to take it to the ground or clinch, and Andy REFUSED and just 'Wanged and banged".

 

 

7/8/14 6:33 PM
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At his level of MMA, this is pretty comical. Why was Parillo giving instructions in the corner if he had nothing to do with that striking style? It's no wonder the advice being given was useless. BJ basically coaches himself for this fight is the way I see it.

7/8/14 6:34 PM
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I don't see someone like Ray Longo allowing that happening if Weidman hit the center of the octagon like that
7/8/14 6:35 PM
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Wouldn't a friend who is supposedly an expert striking coach be doing a disservice to both their friendship and their profession if they didn't strongly offer their opinion? I just don't get it.
7/8/14 6:36 PM
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Not sure what's worse; not stepping up to say anything when he knew it wasn't the right game plan or speaking up after the fact to say like I told you so.

7/8/14 6:39 PM
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Ministry of Truth - Wouldn't a friend who is supposedly an expert striking coach be doing a disservice to both their friendship and their profession if they didn't strongly offer their opinion? I just don't get it.
Supposedly? Get the fuck out, you're posting like the rest of the nubs. Phone Post 3.0
7/8/14 6:42 PM
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Trane - 

Not sure what's worse; not stepping up to say anything when he knew it wasn't the right game plan or speaking up after the fact to say like I told you so.


Dude, his friendship with BJ Penn may or may not have been at stake!

What's more important? Doing your job and providing critical analysis or maybe losing a friendship because you were honest with your check signer?
7/8/14 6:43 PM
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You can't change muscle memory on a weeks notice when bj apparently had been training that way for months. He has a point there. He is trying to save his brand here. Understandably so. Maybe he should have at least expressed his reservation to bj or told him to stop after it didn't work for the first round... Phone Post 3.0
7/8/14 6:57 PM
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The new piece that Jack Slack just wrote drew a comparison between BJ's secret stance and Renan Barao's stance. Something to consider when looking for answers.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jack-slack-a-ghost-under-the-ring-lights
7/8/14 6:59 PM
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This is all on BJ not Parillo. You can't change anything one week out, you will mess up all the work and drilling that BJ put in during camp.
7/8/14 7:05 PM
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Willin - You can't change muscle memory on a weeks notice when bj apparently had been training that way for months. He has a point there. He is trying to save his brand here. Understandably so. Maybe he should have at least expressed his reservation to bj or told him to stop after it didn't work for the first round... Phone Post 3.0

I'm not sure he should've expressed his reservations, that would've just increased the probability of BJ having a bad performance by instilling doubt. And I'm guessing BJ wouldn't have felt comfortable changing that style mid-fight. Maybe the fact that it was 5 rounds factored into it: "He just says he doesn't like that style anymore because it made him too tired".
7/8/14 7:09 PM
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Jason Parillo helped improve BJ's boxing quite a bit in the lead up to his fights with Stevenson and Sherk, but starting with the second GSP fight I think it became obvious to most people that he probably shouldn't be the lead in BJ's corner, and he probably shouldn't be in charge of anything other than being BJ's striking/boxing coach. The fact that he had any say so (even voicing an opinion) on whether BJ should continue to work with Marv and Gary Marinovich prior to the first fight with Frankie was so inappropriate and wrong for BJ that his long time trainer Rudy Valentino decided to part ways not long after.

Parillo does make a solid point about matchmaking in the UFC, but I doubt that's the thing that most fans will take away from this interview (article).
7/8/14 7:11 PM
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Penn does, and always has, what he wants. 'Coaching' in his corner between rounds consists of no more then cheer leading. Not surprised.
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Does Kirik have a substance abuse issue? Just sell this site if this is all the effort you're going to put into it.

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