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7/19/14 6:56 PM
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Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 10:00 PM
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Kinkle - How much development does Wiggins really need? We haven't even seen him play in the NBA yet, we'll get a better idea come allstar break. Cavs are good enough in the East to make the NBA finals already. Barnes was a strong contributor in playoffs in his rookie year, and Wiggins >> Barnes. Of course Love will be better then Wiggins for at least the next 2 years. But the gamble to have BOTH Love and Wiggins is a risk worth taking. All it'd really take is Love saying he'll only play for the CAVS...
He isn't a great offensive finisher and his shooting is not even close to where it needs to be. Athletic and a great defender with a bit of experience will be elite on defense. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 10:02 PM
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IBProfane - Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
If he played in the east he would have. But in the west you don't make the playoffs with one good player. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 11:45 PM
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IBProfane - Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
If he played in the east he would have. But in the west you don't make the playoffs with one good player. Phone Post 3.0
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7/20/14 12:07 AM
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If they can squeeze gorgui Dieng out of Minnesota as well as love I would 100% trade wiggins if not I would be reluctant to do the deal Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 12:18 AM
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Only reason not to make the trade is to wait and see how Wiggins performs for a few months. Wiggins may be an elite player in the future. Love is an elite player NOW, and combining him with Lebron and Irving makes an instant title contender.
7/20/14 12:22 AM
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pray for japan - it would be foolish to trade wiggins for a one year rental of love. wiggins will make the cavs an elite defensive team Phone Post 3.0
He would sign long term with the Cavs Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 12:33 AM
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if the cavs wait a year they will get love anyways but bron wants love and to win it all this year.. so wiggins will prolly get traded.
7/20/14 12:49 AM
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Why do people assume Love would go there next year? In don't follow basketball but it seems like he's a good player that a lot of teams will throw money at. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:10 AM
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love is a stat guy

watch him live and tell me he is elite

I watched New York shut him down and make his slow turn arounds look ridiculous

7/20/14 1:12 AM
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pray for japan - it would be foolish to trade wiggins for a one year rental of love. wiggins will make the cavs an elite defensive team Phone Post 3.0
He would sign long term with the Cavs Phone Post 3.0
if he would sign long term with the cavs, why not just come next season as a free agent? cavs can shed some salaries to bring him in and keep wiggins on a rookie deal. win win

love will be a liability on d. lebron and wiggins will make the cavs an elite D Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:17 AM
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IBProfane - Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
If he played in the east he would have. But in the west you don't make the playoffs with one good player. Phone Post 3.0
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thats not true, its been done many times. cp3 on the hornets did it. dirk has had some of the worst supporting casts of all time around him at times, even winning a title, garnett did it with the timberwolves, and a few more examples. love had good players with him, he just isnt a winner Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:20 AM
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IBProfane - Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
If he played in the east he would have. But in the west you don't make the playoffs with one good player. Phone Post 3.0
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thats not true, its been done many times. cp3 on the hornets did it. dirk has had some of the worst supporting casts of all time around him at times, even winning a title, garnett did it with the timberwolves, and a few more examples. love had good players with him, he just isnt a winner Phone Post 3.0
This. Those are good analogies, Love has had teams with enough talent to slip into the playoffs if he is truly one of the top 5-10 players in the league. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:21 AM
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Kinkle - How much development does Wiggins really need? We haven't even seen him play in the NBA yet, we'll get a better idea come allstar break. Cavs are good enough in the East to make the NBA finals already. Barnes was a strong contributor in playoffs in his rookie year, and Wiggins >> Barnes. Of course Love will be better then Wiggins for at least the next 2 years. But the gamble to have BOTH Love and Wiggins is a risk worth taking. All it'd really take is Love saying he'll only play for the CAVS...
He isn't a great offensive finisher and his shooting is not even close to where it needs to be. Athletic and a great defender with a bit of experience will be elite on defense. Phone Post 3.0
i could have sworn, watching the summer league that wiggins has finished a lot of times at the rim, pulling up, creating off the dribble.. first step move and a spin move. hes not refined yet but he can already finish now and it looks like hes working on creating with the ball. theres no rush anyway, lebron and kyrie will feed him. all he needs to do is defend like a doberman and finish easy baskets courtesy of their playmakers Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:33 AM
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Wiggins sucks!!!

Get Kevin Love!

Thank you.
7/20/14 1:37 AM
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Wiggins has the athleticism to be a defensive factor immediately. The fact that he's a little raw works in his favor, as he can be shaped to complement Irving/James. I can see giving up a lot to get Love, but not Wiggins.
7/20/14 1:57 AM
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Keep wiggins. Get love next year. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 2:06 AM
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Love puts them as the favorite to win the East. They also have a team that could win a title in the next year or two.


7/20/14 6:47 AM
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IBProfane - Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
If he played in the east he would have. But in the west you don't make the playoffs with one good player. Phone Post 3.0
TRUTH! Phone Post 3.0
thats not true, its been done many times. cp3 on the hornets did it. dirk has had some of the worst supporting casts of all time around him at times, even winning a title, garnett did it with the timberwolves, and a few more examples. love had good players with him, he just isnt a winner Phone Post 3.0
This. Those are good analogies, Love has had teams with enough talent to slip into the playoffs if he is truly one of the top 5-10 players in the league. Phone Post 3.0

Those are NOT good analogies. It's 2014 not 1997. The NBA is a VERY different league now than it was when Garnett could one man his way to the playoffs. The 2011 Mavs were hardly a one-man team.

Love is a terrific player and a perfect fit for the Cavs. 

7/20/14 6:49 AM
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Kinkle - How much development does Wiggins really need? We haven't even seen him play in the NBA yet, we'll get a better idea come allstar break. Cavs are good enough in the East to make the NBA finals already. Barnes was a strong contributor in playoffs in his rookie year, and Wiggins >> Barnes. Of course Love will be better then Wiggins for at least the next 2 years. But the gamble to have BOTH Love and Wiggins is a risk worth taking. All it'd really take is Love saying he'll only play for the CAVS...
He isn't a great offensive finisher and his shooting is not even close to where it needs to be. Athletic and a great defender with a bit of experience will be elite on defense. Phone Post 3.0
i could have sworn, watching the summer league that wiggins has finished a lot of times at the rim, pulling up, creating off the dribble.. first step move and a spin move. hes not refined yet but he can already finish now and it looks like hes working on creating with the ball. theres no rush anyway, lebron and kyrie will feed him. all he needs to do is defend like a doberman and finish easy baskets courtesy of their playmakers Phone Post 3.0

LOL at judging anything from NBA Summer League. Top college practices are filled with more competition than some of those games.

7/20/14 8:26 AM
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IBProfane - Wiggins, easily. If Love is such a great player how did he never take Minny to the playoffs, even as an 8 seed? Phone Post 3.0
If he played in the east he would have. But in the west you don't make the playoffs with one good player. Phone Post 3.0
TRUTH! Phone Post 3.0
thats not true, its been done many times. cp3 on the hornets did it. dirk has had some of the worst supporting casts of all time around him at times, even winning a title, garnett did it with the timberwolves, and a few more examples. love had good players with him, he just isnt a winner Phone Post 3.0
This. Those are good analogies, Love has had teams with enough talent to slip into the playoffs if he is truly one of the top 5-10 players in the league. Phone Post 3.0

Those are NOT good analogies. It's 2014 not 1997. The NBA is a VERY different league now than it was when Garnett could one man his way to the playoffs. The 2011 Mavs were hardly a one-man team.

Love is a terrific player and a perfect fit for the Cavs. 

the 2011 mavs was among the worst supporting casts surrounding dirk to ever win a championship in the last twenty years, maybe more..

and dirk has taken line ups worse than that to the playoffs every single season.. in the west. it can be done and has been done

theres no getting around it, love is not as good as his stats reflect. hes is a stat padder that has failed to bring his team to the playoffs, EVER Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 8:31 AM
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Kinkle - How much development does Wiggins really need? We haven't even seen him play in the NBA yet, we'll get a better idea come allstar break. Cavs are good enough in the East to make the NBA finals already. Barnes was a strong contributor in playoffs in his rookie year, and Wiggins >> Barnes. Of course Love will be better then Wiggins for at least the next 2 years. But the gamble to have BOTH Love and Wiggins is a risk worth taking. All it'd really take is Love saying he'll only play for the CAVS...
He isn't a great offensive finisher and his shooting is not even close to where it needs to be. Athletic and a great defender with a bit of experience will be elite on defense. Phone Post 3.0
i could have sworn, watching the summer league that wiggins has finished a lot of times at the rim, pulling up, creating off the dribble.. first step move and a spin move. hes not refined yet but he can already finish now and it looks like hes working on creating with the ball. theres no rush anyway, lebron and kyrie will feed him. all he needs to do is defend like a doberman and finish easy baskets courtesy of their playmakers Phone Post 3.0

LOL at judging anything from NBA Summer League. Top college practices are filled with more competition than some of those games.

dont be exaggerating. non star players in college would be lucky to ever set foot in the nba summer league and would require extraodinary circumstances. youre going against too draft picks, nba veterans, guys fighting to get on the line up.. a college practice player is no where near that. its not the nba but theres no denying the talent on the court. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 8:37 AM
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Look at the roster the Wolves have had with Love. Can you seriously tell me that anyone short of Lebron drags that collection of players to a western conference playoff spot? Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 9:53 AM
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One man may be able to drag you to a low playoff seed but one man cannot win a title. You need a supporting cast. The 2011 Mavs had Kidd and Chandler. Even the '96 Bulls had guys like Pippen and Kukoc helping Jordan out.
7/20/14 9:56 AM
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VinegarStrokes - Look at the roster the Wolves have had with Love. Can you seriously tell me that anyone short of Lebron drags that collection of players to a western conference playoff spot? Phone Post 3.0
take dirk out from the mavs and look at whats left of that team and what theyve done year after year.. Phone Post 3.0

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