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7/19/14 6:41 PM
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B_Goetz - Agree with Moke. This is unfortunate, but not uncommon. Kids' brains aren't fully developed at that age.
My 3 year old would not do that shit. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 6:42 PM
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Three, and you are staking a claim on all of his future behavior already? Good luck with that!
7/19/14 6:50 PM
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Moke - lol, if they were teenaged boys I could understand...the only reason it's disturbing is because that's pretty unusual for girls. On the other hand, what teenaged boy hasn't shot/burned/crushed or otherwise killed a rat/bird/lizard/squirrel or what have you?

They're TEENAGERS. It's the temporarily insane part of your life.

But then like I said, girls torturing animals is pretty unusual.

It's disgusting psychopathic behavior. I never shot/burned/crushed or otherwise tortured any animals when I was a teenager, and I did a TON of absolutely retarded things. The furthest I or any of my friends ever went was to shoot cows with a paintball using a slingshot(never in the face), but that is stupid harassment that did absolutely no damage to the animal, not psychotic killing.

Yes, it is completely normal and expected for teenagers to do insanely stupid and irresponsible shit, but it's not at all normal when that shit involves torturing and killing animals.

Pooping on your neighbors doorstep, egging a house, skipping class, etc. = normal dumb teenager behavior. Lighting a turtle on fire and then stomping it to death, or burning/crushing a squirrel = not normal.
7/19/14 6:55 PM
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Moke - ...nowadays I feel like a wuss. My son has a little monarch butterfly hatchery, and the other day one butterfly came out of its pupa deformed. It only had three legs, and one antenna had formed directly into one of the wings. It tried for 2 days to dry out and fly. But it was too deformed to ever fly or be able to do anything but sit there, dehydrate, and starve.

So I decided the only civilized thing to do was to end its suffering. So I did, but I can't believe how much it bothered me to do it.

That's what happens................. when you decide to play God!

7/19/14 6:56 PM
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Setting a turtle on fire?


What the fuck??? Jesus christ we need to start killing off the broken people.
7/19/14 6:58 PM
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poonhunter 5000 - I used to do some seriously evil shit to bugs, but never actual animals. And fuck harming a turtle. I always had a soft spot for turtles.

I like turtles. Phone Post 3.0

See here's the thing - us normal older people did this. We spent all day outside hanging out with critters - sometimes we shot things with pellet guns, we definitely burned ants, but setting a turtle on fire, and watching it burn to death, no, we didn't do that and guess what if you lit animals on fire and watched them burn ( and yes I know insects are part of the animal kingdom - so don't split hairs like some cunt )then were and most likely are fucked up.
7/19/14 7:01 PM
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poonhunter 5000 - I used to do some seriously evil shit to bugs, but never actual animals. And fuck harming a turtle. I always had a soft spot for turtles.

I like turtles. Phone Post 3.0

See here's the thing - us normal older people did this. We spent all day outside hanging out with critters - sometimes we shot things with pellet guns, we definitely burned ants, but setting a turtle on fire, and watching it burn to death, no, we didn't do that and guess what if you lit animals on fire and watched them burn ( and yes I know insects are part of the animal kingdom - so don't split hairs like some cunt )then were and most likely are fucked up.

 

We would shoot black bumble bees with our bb guns, burn ants with magnifying glasses, feed grasshoppers to ant colonies to observe the process, etc

 

Setting a little turtle on fire? Nope. Fuck nope.

7/19/14 7:01 PM
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Moke - lol, if they were teenaged boys I could understand...the only reason it's disturbing is because that's pretty unusual for girls. On the other hand, what teenaged boy hasn't shot/burned/crushed or otherwise killed a rat/bird/lizard/squirrel or what have you?

They're TEENAGERS. It's the temporarily insane part of your life.

But then like I said, girls torturing animals is pretty unusual.

I never came close to have "shot/burned/crushed"animals as a teen.


I never said ALL boys do it, however it is common/normal behavior for boys whether you like it or not. I didn't create reality I just observe it.

Maybe you can vote me down for the sun rising in the east next.
It's not common nor normal to kill animals for fun. Phone Post 3.0

How the fuck can you fags use the words burned, crushed and SHOT in the same demeaning manor.

LOL@ you city living pussies, people shoot shit, this is America!
Durp durp Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 7:02 PM
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Holy shit I used to live around there Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 7:04 PM
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Tortoises are awesome.

Fuck these two Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 7:04 PM
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Rip little turtle Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 7:11 PM
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Animal torture is fucked up.

I grew up outside alot, not saying I didnt do dumb ignorant shit.

Would it be acceptable if they were taking its life to make turtle soup? My grandmas neighbor was native american and cultivated and raised turtles to consume... Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 7:13 PM
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Just for technical purposes, I'd like to know what the measuring stick is. And what is the order of things?

Does it go, plant, insect, reptile, mammal, human being?

Where is the line EXACTLY, and who determines the line?

Is it a technical matter at all or an emotional one?
7/19/14 7:15 PM
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My condolences June Carter Gopher Tortoise.
7/19/14 7:19 PM
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Moke
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Sadistically destroying bugs, though I never did it myself because I loved insects as a kid, is more understandable than killing and torturing vertebrates and feeling animals. If that's the norm among kids (and I don't believe it is) all it means is that people are born cruel and that there's serious meanness in most of us.


lol, why is everyone SO dramatic? Kids aren't BORN CRUEL, they are simply born ignorant, immature, and haven't developed a broad spectrum of empathy yet. Is this a big surprise to everyone?
7/19/14 7:20 PM
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7/19/14 7:21 PM
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Josh -

* insert bugs bunny florida gif here*

 

Bugs is not doing a good enough job IMO.

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7/19/14 7:22 PM
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Moke - Just for technical purposes, I'd like to know what the measuring stick is. And what is the order of things?

Does it go, plant, insect, reptile, mammal, human being?

Where is the line EXACTLY, and who determines the line?

Is it a technical matter at all or an emotional one?

 

When I shot bumblebees it was target practice. There was no joy in actually shooting them.

 

When I fed insects to ant colonies, it was pure curiosity. I wanted to see how fast they could devour an insect. I would spend a good portion of the day observing the entire process.

 

There was none of that psychotic pleasure in killing these insects. I'd feel bad about doing those things now, but when you're a kid, you're incredibly curious and you will do things because of it. One of those things is not setting a turtle on fire and laughing.

7/19/14 7:25 PM
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Jack Carter - 
Moke - Just for technical purposes, I'd like to know what the measuring stick is. And what is the order of things?

Does it go, plant, insect, reptile, mammal, human being?

Where is the line EXACTLY, and who determines the line?

Is it a technical matter at all or an emotional one?

 

When I shot bumblebees it was target practice. There was no joy in actually shooting them.

 

 

When I fed insects to ant colonies, it was pure curiosity. I wanted to see how fast they could devour an insect. I would spend a good portion of the day observing the entire process.

 

There was none of that psychotic pleasure in killing these insects. I can't do those things now, but when you're a kid, you're incredibly curious and you will do things because of it.


That's the same for 99% of us kids. However I don't need to remind you that the animal couldn't care less if you enjoyed it or not. It still died horribly.
7/19/14 7:27 PM
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But the point is, I didn't extract any pleasure from the act of killing or harming them. I didn't do it because I wanted to kill or watch something suffer while laughing

7/19/14 7:28 PM
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So is the point that they made a tortoise suffer, or that they enjoyed it?
7/19/14 7:31 PM
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Keep in mind that if a coyote got ahold of that tortoise later that night, it would probably have spent a good 4 hours torturing it while trying to get past its shell to kill and eat it.
7/19/14 7:32 PM
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I think the point is.....

 

4chan is fucking scary.

 

Remember, if you ever do anything stupid, do it with a black backdrop, voice changer, and wear masks that don't show visible tattoos.

Otherwise, you gon' get got.

7/19/14 7:33 PM
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Moke -
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Moke - lol, if they were teenaged boys I could understand...the only reason it's disturbing is because that's pretty unusual for girls. On the other hand, what teenaged boy hasn't shot/burned/crushed or otherwise killed a rat/bird/lizard/squirrel or what have you?

They're TEENAGERS. It's the temporarily insane part of your life.

But then like I said, girls torturing animals is pretty unusual.

I never came close to have "shot/burned/crushed"animals as a teen.


I never said ALL boys do it, however it is common/normal behavior for boys whether you like it or not. I didn't create reality I just observe it.

Maybe you can vote me down for the sun rising in the east next.
I get where Moke is coming from. I used to shoot birdsas a teenager with a slug gun. These days, in my 30's, I'll dodge ants so I don't tread on them.

I've never purposely tortured anything though.

Moke's point about living out doors as a kid is very valid. At 12 years old we'd Fuck off on our bikes for the day and only return when the sun went down. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 7:33 PM
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Jack Carter - 

But the point is, I didn't extract any pleasure from the act of killing or harming them. I didn't do it because I wanted to kill or watch something suffer while laughing


btw, satisfying your curiosity was deriving pleasure. So their torture and deaths did give you pleasure...or you wouldn't have done it.

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