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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
How hard is it for some people to not take responsibility for your own actions? The guy resisted arrest. That's on him at that point. If he did not resist he would still be alive right now. That simple. Phone Post 3.0

How hard is it for some people to NOT take responsibility for MY actions?. I don't even...

You got me there, bro.
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Team GDP's cancerous testicle - How many times prior was the guy arrested?
I don't really see how that would matter. Do police usually know ones record when they arrest them? Phone Post 3.0
When he's been arrested 31 times, 4 for the same offense around the same location I would say yes. Phone Post 3.0

and besides that, it's the same with most of these 'isolated incidents'. bums, multiple arrests, people on drugs. Fucks shouldn't be given so lightly.
Not much empathy huh? That's a shame and I feel bad for you. Phone Post 3.0

you want me to understand the feelings of a man whose been arrested 30 times? fuck him and fuck your fake feelings
7/20/14 1:11 PM
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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
How hard is it for some people to not take responsibility for your own actions? The guy resisted arrest. That's on him at that point. If he did not resist he would still be alive right now. That simple. Phone Post 3.0

So you agree that the cops need to take responsibility for their own actions, right?  After all, they did apply a prohibited chokehold.  Glad you agree that the cops need to man up and take responsibility for killing this guy. 

7/20/14 1:13 PM
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Meastt - This is funny....it's clear the cops didn't kill him. They legally effected a arrest...us choice to resist placed his body into a fatally dangerous zone.

That is all.... Phone Post 3.0

People hate cops on the OG everything is their fault ALWAYS. Truth be told the cops could have handled the situation better. But he resisted it's not like they beat him they subdued him and his obesity caused his heart to fail because of the stress he put himself in.

7/20/14 1:17 PM
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Meastt - This is funny....it's clear the cops didn't kill him. They legally effected a arrest...us choice to resist placed his body into a fatally dangerous zone.

That is all.... Phone Post 3.0

People hate cops on the OG everything is their fault ALWAYS. Truth be told the cops could have handled the situation better. But he resisted it's not like they beat him they subdued him and his obesity caused his heart to fail because of the stress he put himself in.


Wait, so the cops didn't put him in the positions which led to his death?  You're saying that he voluntarily deprived himself of oxygen, threw himself on the ground, choked himself with his own hands,  etc..etc...???   lmfao   

This is starting to turn comical.  

7/20/14 1:30 PM
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That guy was slowly committing suicide anyways. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:31 PM
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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
How hard is it for some people to not take responsibility for your own actions? The guy resisted arrest. That's on him at that point. If he did not resist he would still be alive right now. That simple. Phone Post 3.0

So you agree that the cops need to take responsibility for their own actions, right?  After all, they did apply a prohibited chokehold.  Glad you agree that the cops need to man up and take responsibility for killing this guy. 

"They" didn't apply the chokehold, one cop did (last name starts with a P).

Furthermore the chokehold had nothing to do with his death, his resisting is what set the entire situation in motion. If he had put his hands behind his back when asked he would have been cuffed without incident and most likely be alive today.

With all that being said, the officer (P) that administered the choke will most likely face disciplinary action as the choke is prohibited. However since the choke had nothing to do with the death I would assume it would be light, and rightfully so.

However, despite the fact that the chokehold and death had nothing to do with one another; the cop haters will say the police choked the man to death, Al Sharpton will rally and turn this into a racial issue when it is anything but, the cop will be wrongfully fired, and the family will successfully sue the city for millions. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:32 PM
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a heart attack brought on by chokehold that stopped him from breathing and caused his heart rate to spike? thread title is BS.
7/20/14 1:34 PM
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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
How hard is it for some people to not take responsibility for your own actions? The guy resisted arrest. That's on him at that point. If he did not resist he would still be alive right now. That simple. Phone Post 3.0

great. I'm glad you're into people taking responsibility.

The cop used a banned chokehold, and now the man he used it again is dead very likely due to that chokehold. That's on the cop. If he hadn't broken the rules, the other guy would be alive. That simple.
7/20/14 1:41 PM
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Lol, how far back can we go with this line of stupidity. If he didn't sell cigarettes illegally, he wouldn't be dead. If he didn't go out that day, he wouldn't be dead. If he was never born, he wouldn't be dead.

Are you claiming that if he was handcuffed willingly but STILL put in a chokehold, taken to the ground in the exact same manner, he would still be alive?, and that it was pure and utterly the resisting arrest that was the cause of his heart attack?
7/20/14 1:43 PM
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Ari2 - a heart attack brought on by chokehold that stopped him from breathing and caused his heart rate to spike? thread title is BS.

FAIL!

He was still breathing when he was put in the ambulance...

Are you sure about that?. Can you tell me what is said in this video at 4:39, please.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=509_1405750941
7/20/14 1:45 PM
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Knee you are racist bro? lol never would have guessed
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"Put your hands behind your back"

'No'

"Pretty please?

'Fuck off'

"Pretty please...with sugar on top?

'Oh alright'


See how easy it is to handle that situation? Phone Post 3.0
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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
He was still breathing when put in the ambulance so the "No CPR" is a moot point. Phone Post 3.0
If you believe that I have a bridge for sale.... Phone Post 3.0
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ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - Knee you are racist bro? lol never would have guessed
How is this turning into a racial issue?

Fucking crazy shit. Phone Post 3.0
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sublime13 - "Put your hands behind your back"

'No'

"Pretty please?

'Fuck off'

"Pretty please...with sugar on top?

'Oh alright'


See how easy it is to handle that situation? Phone Post 3.0

Yeah, make fun of his diabetes too, bro.

Poor guy wouldn't stand a chance here
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They should have just tazed his ass.

7/20/14 1:50 PM
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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
He was still breathing when put in the ambulance so the "No CPR" is a moot point. Phone Post 3.0
If you believe that I have a bridge for sale.... Phone Post 3.0
Please clarify your statement.

Are you saying the paramedic in scene did not perform CPR even though he was not breathing?

Pretty sure she observed he had a pulse and was breathing which is why she didn't start compressions right away.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:51 PM
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If it was a proper rnc the arterial blockage could've prompted the heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:54 PM
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"officer I can't breathe, please let go"
7/20/14 1:56 PM
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ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - "officer I can't breathe, please let go"
He said he couldn't breathe way after the hold was released.

But again, don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/14 1:59 PM
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NC, can you hear what is said in this video at 4:39?.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=509_1405750941
7/20/14 2:01 PM
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Again I ask, if the actions of the cops didn't kill him, then I presume that you are claiming that he would have died at the exact same time in the exact same manner had the cops not assaulted him, right?

 

His decision to resist, and therefore raise his heart rate to a dangerous level for his condition, most likely caused his heart attack. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah, definitely not the prohibited choke hold. Or the suffocation. Or the lack of cpr while officers stood around looking at his lifeless body for over 5 minutes.

None of that contributed in any way.

It was coz he was fat. Phone Post 3.0
He was still breathing when put in the ambulance so the "No CPR" is a moot point. Phone Post 3.0
If you believe that I have a bridge for sale.... Phone Post 3.0
Please clarify your statement.

Are you saying the paramedic in scene did not perform CPR even though he was not breathing?

Pretty sure she observed he had a pulse and was breathing which is why she didn't start compressions right away.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Phone Post 3.0
Do you really believe she did a thorough job? She eventually poked at his neck after staring at him for about a minute. I didn't see her check his breathing at all. In addition why in the FUCK after they couldn't revive him was he still restrained?

That was a coverup from the second they realized they went too far. Or didn't you hear them ask to turn off the camera? Everything after that was a performance for the camera. "Oh, he is still breathing" said the cop.

Really, jackass? His giant fat belly didn't move for most of the video, his head was lolled to the side, eyes open and rolled into the back of his head.

But im sure you are right, he is about to have the heart attack that will kill him, in the ambulance. Those nice police officers did everything they could after all to help him. They had NOTHING to do with it! Bah. Phone Post 3.0
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nobadanymore - NC, can you hear what is said in this video at 4:39?.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=509_1405750941
Actually I can't make it out. The chick ems with the annoying SI accent says "Sir, its ems, gonna put you in the stretcher.."

Sounds like one of the cops says something and she says "Yeah, yeah, yeah".

Can't make out what he says though, too much background noise. Phone Post 3.0
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nobadanymore - NC, can you hear what is said in this video at 4:39?.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=509_1405750941
Actually I can't make it out. The chick ems with the annoying SI accent says "Sir, its ems, gonna put you in the stretcher.."

Sounds like one of the cops says something and she says "Yeah, yeah, yeah".

Can't make out what he says though, too much background noise. Phone Post 3.0
Sounded to me the cop said "he's not breathing" Phone Post 3.0

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