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This is a silly thread with more silly replies than I thought it would get.

I'll take the guy with the best hands p4p on earth for nearly 10 years against a rapper.

Stupid responses are stupid. Phone Post 3.0
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We've seen Kimbo in a street fight. What evidence do we have to suggest PBF has what it takes to deal with 230 lbs of bare knuckle aggression? Phone Post 3.0
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The notion of 50 beating Floyd in a fight is as ridiculous as saying Floyd could beat 50 in a rap battle.
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Samoa - We've seen Kimbo in a street fight. What evidence do we have to suggest PBF has what it takes to deal with 230 lbs of bare knuckle aggression? Phone Post 3.0

No evidence at all.

Bare knuckle is a different ball game. Kimbo is used to KOing people (admittedly scrubs) with his bare knuckles.

Floyd breaks his hands wrapped in pillow gloves.

There is no way Floyd stops Kimbo from grabbing him and throwing him through the air

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Samoa - We've seen Kimbo in a street fight. What evidence do we have to suggest PBF has what it takes to deal with 230 lbs of bare knuckle aggression? Phone Post 3.0

No evidence at all.

Bare knuckle is a different ball game. Kimbo is used to KOing people (admittedly scrubs) with his bare knuckles.

Floyd breaks his hands wrapped in pillow gloves.

There is no way Floyd stops Kimbo from grabbing him and throwing him through the air

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How about Eminem vs Don Frye?
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what an absolute bunch of cocksuckers up in here, fml this place is screwed :( Phone Post 3.0
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I never come to the UG anymore, the only time I see UG threads is when I open Hottest Threads on the app. After reading all the idiots who think 50 has even a prayer against PBF, I'm going to skip straight to the OG hottest threads from now on. Unbelievable, in the truest sense of the word Phone Post 3.0
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people have seen Mayweather box in 40 plus fights NObody has seen 50 Cent do anything other than look like a thug .Mayweather would whoop his ass
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I No Kung Foo - How about Eminem vs Don Frye?

hahahahahaha awesome
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Winston Wolf - people have seen Mayweather box in 40 plus fights NObody has seen 50 Cent do anything other than look like a thug .Mayweather would whoop his ass

I find it funny that not you or anyone else can refute what Emmanuel Steward said about 50 cent, even linked a you tube vid thou to prove that he mad the statement...

Accord to you thou 50 cent has never done shit so I guess ATG boxing trainer must be lying then about 50 cent's GG background right?
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50 already fucked him up before. Google. Floyd better stick to the ring and avoiding Pac. Also, he better keep avoiding black fighters who can match his speed. His claim to fame is carefully choosing these slowpokes he fights. He looks magnificent and like a defensive wizard against these slow guys. He avoids anyone with speed and power. Cotto was fast enough to catch him. He better stay away from the Thurman's, the Brook's, the Porter's, the Pac's. His dominance is an illusion based on who he has chosen to perform against. Last black fighter he fought was an ancient Mosely. Mosely rocked the shit out of him in the 2nd round. A younger Mosely would have finished it. Just my opinion though. I see through the marketing bs. Phone Post 3.0
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The way to beat an opponent who has more skill than you is to make it an all-out brawl.   Make it a messy, savage affair.  Take away any ability of your opponent to utilize their superior technique and skills.

Bar/street fights are ugly, unfair, highly-dangerous, unpredictable and chaotic.  It is in that mayhem that a lesser-skilled but violent and experienced street savage can possibly beat the more technical fighter.  There are no Queensbury rules, gentlemen's agreement, off-limits strikes or tactics.   Those are quaint notions, but haven't applied since grade-school.

In 50 vs Mayweather in a bar-brawl, 50 strikes first and grabs FM in double-underhooks, runs him full tilt-boogie into a cigarette machine, bar, or support post, ending the bull-rush with a hard hockey-style check.  50 sweeps FM's legs and then put the boots or gnp to him.  Get's his back and RNC's his skinny little never-wrestled ass.

Why does 50 strike first?  Because a seriously experienced street fighter always will strike first.  They might even intentionally distract their opponent before striking.  So 50 gets the jump.

Mayweather is used to clinching with men his size, in a nice ring with traction and cute boots.  Not on tile, wet or sticky, carpet, concrete,or oily asphalt.  Not skating backwards in his fancy Italian smooth-bottomed shoes, Tito, while being grabbed by his tailored shirt, lifted up and manhandled by a much larger and stronger human. 

Mayweather is not at all used to having to be acutely aware of the surrounding battlefield.  He's used to a nice clean ring.  Not dancing amongst civilians, chairs, tables, stairs, drinkrails and brick walls while a strobe machine is flashing.  He never has to think about what will happen if his opponent in the ring will pick up a beer mug or is going to fling a bar-stool at his skinny ass just for fun.

Mayweather does not go from zero-to-savage instantaneously while fighting in the ring.  He has a long, premeditated, contemplated and planned-out time to get into that ring and mind-set.  A street/bar fight happens in a nano-second and is over in less than 2-minutes.  Usually much less.  The dude that is the most nasty-aggressive, strikes first, and follows through wins more often than not.  A seasoned, winning street fighter can indeed go from civil to Viking in an eye-blink.    Does FM have this type of split disposition that is actually highly discouraged in a pro fighter? 

A street fight is an all-out blitz, a sprint, of savagery and ultra-violence.  All offense, no defense, fuck cardio, ride the adrenalin and unleash maximum violence in minimal time.  It is not fair, has no rules, it is a primordial ugly affair and has no place in civilized and polite society.

It is in that unleashed chaos, turmoil and madness that 50 could, quite possibly, wreck Mayweather in a street/bar fight.

In ANY sanctioned fight, 50 gets his ass handed to him by FM.  Badly.

 


You have a thing for hyperbole and fanciful writing. Lulz.

 

You have a thing for being a jackass.  Which is not at all funny.

 

Insert Kimbo, or 50, or whomever you want.

My statements stand.  Just like in the recent OG thread where a Green Name agreed with the same basic analysis.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2354331/untrained-person-vs-a-pro-fighter/?&page=3

EDIT:   Read my posts and the follow-up by Owlfeeder (Green Name).

How does a guy in the Octagon beat a guy with superior skills?  Make it an ugly, nasty brawl.

How does a guy in a bar-fight beat FM?  Make it an ugly nasty brawl and take FM out of his very focused and one-dimensional set of world-class skills.  Surprise him with shit he has never dealt with prior.

 

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Winston Wolf - people have seen Mayweather box in 40 plus fights NObody has seen 50 Cent do anything other than look like a thug .Mayweather would whoop his ass

I find it funny that not you or anyone else can refute what Emmanuel Steward said about 50 cent, even linked a you tube vid thou to prove that he mad the statement...

Accord to you thou 50 cent has never done shit so I guess ATG boxing trainer must be lying then about 50 cent's GG background right?

yes 50 Cent has zero record in boxing he is 0-0 Floyd is what 45-0 .Its always a story.Ifi wantto see Floyd fight he has verified fights and championship fights 50 Cent has someone talking about what he can do .Yes 50 Cent hasnt done jack shit in boxing Practice aint no real match
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KnockoutThoughts - 50 already fucked him up before. Google. Floyd better stick to the ring and avoiding Pac. Also, he better keep avoiding black fighters who can match his speed. His claim to fame is carefully choosing these slowpokes he fights. He looks magnificent and like a defensive wizard against these slow guys. He avoids anyone with speed and power. Cotto was fast enough to catch him. He better stay away from the Thurman's, the Brook's, the Porter's, the Pac's. His dominance is an illusion based on who he has chosen to perform against. Last black fighter he fought was an ancient Mosely. Mosely rocked the shit out of him in the 2nd round. A younger Mosely would have finished it. Just my opinion though. I see through the marketing bs. Phone Post 3.0

nobody believes 50 Cent fucked him up before
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Art Jimmerson.  Zero chance in a sanctioned, fair, fight in the Octagon against a grappler.

ANY of those early competitors with a smidge of ground game, wrestling or subs, would have wrecked his ass.  It would not have taken a BB in Gracie JJ.  Shamrock or DeLucia would have also strangled or submitted Jimmerson.  And Jimmerson is a big bastard with plenty of KO power.

Yet somehow FM would magically know how to grapple against a 200+ pound opponent in a street fight?

 

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Art Jimmerson.  Zero chance in a sanctioned, fair, fight in the Octagon against a grappler.

ANY of those early competitors with a smidge of ground game, wrestling or subs, would have wrecked his ass.  It would not have taken a BB in Gracie JJ.  Shamrock or DeLucia would have also strangled or submitted Jimmerson.  And Jimmerson is a big bastard with plenty of KO power.

Yet somehow FM would magically know how to grapple against a 200+ pound opponent in a street fight?

 


please dont compare rapper 50 Cent to Shamrock or DeLucia
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Art Jimmerson.  Zero chance in a sanctioned, fair, fight in the Octagon against a grappler.

ANY of those early competitors with a smidge of ground game, wrestling or subs, would have wrecked his ass.  It would not have taken a BB in Gracie JJ.  Shamrock or DeLucia would have also strangled or submitted Jimmerson.  And Jimmerson is a big bastard with plenty of KO power.

Yet somehow FM would magically know how to grapple against a 200+ pound opponent in a street fight?

 


please dont compare rapper 50 Cent to Shamrock or DeLucia

Please don't assert that FM has any idea what he is doing on the ground.

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Art Jimmerson.  Zero chance in a sanctioned, fair, fight in the Octagon against a grappler.

ANY of those early competitors with a smidge of ground game, wrestling or subs, would have wrecked his ass.  It would not have taken a BB in Gracie JJ.  Shamrock or DeLucia would have also strangled or submitted Jimmerson.  And Jimmerson is a big bastard with plenty of KO power.

Yet somehow FM would magically know how to grapple against a 200+ pound opponent in a street fight?

 


please dont compare rapper 50 Cent to Shamrock or DeLucia

Please don't assert that FM has any idea what he is doing on the ground.

 

You're asserting that a 40 year old non-grappler who can't throw a baseball straight is going to beat Floyd's ass and Marcelo Garcia him on the ground.

 

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let's get two things straight. 50 did some boys club. PAL level boxing. not golden gloves. 50 is not 'huge' he's around 190-200. floyd walks at around 150. he's giving up a serious amount of weight. so in a close quarters argument that turns into a tussle, then 50 has an edge. any situation that has them square off and exchange punches will have 50 looking idiotic. picked apart easily.outside of a flatout bullrush, that if there is space i would bet on mayweathers reflexes and timing, what hope would 50 have. do any sane person think in a squared up situation 50 the rapper could lay a punch on floyd mayweather? lol, gtfo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcn6mMiI9mQ

Cue up to 17:51....

I will take Emanuael Stewards word....

in 50's own words

http://www.mtv.com/bands/123/50_cent/news_feature_022505/

Brooklyn, New York's legendary Gleason's Gym is full of commotion, as usual. Aspiring and established pugilists drip with sweat as they grunt through their training regimens, dreaming of knocking somebody out at Madison Square Garden. But what is rare about this day is that many of the fist-throwers are fixated on one ring. They whip out their camera phones to capture one of Gleason's own, a man who has risen up the ranks to superstardom.

Unlike the gym's esteemed graduates like Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson and Zab "Super" Judah, however, this Gleason's alum made his name by laying his opponents down on wax, not in the ring.

  All Eyes On 50 Cent:
The Sequel
"Ahh man, I just wanted to come back through here," explains 50 Cent, who actually competed in the Junior Olympics back in the early '80s and who is now sparring in the ring. "I got a chance to come down here when I was training as an amateur fighter back in the day. I was too young to go to the Golden Glove competition at that point."

50 started boxing somewhere around the age of 10 or 11, but as an early teen he gave up his dream of ruling in the squared circle to hustle drugs in the street. Still, almost two decades removed from the ring, 50 says he continues to carry some of what he learned at Gleason's and that those lessons apply to his career as a rapp

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The way to beat an opponent who has more skill than you is to make it an all-out brawl.   Make it a messy, savage affair.  Take away any ability of your opponent to utilize their superior technique and skills.

Bar/street fights are ugly, unfair, highly-dangerous, unpredictable and chaotic.  It is in that mayhem that a lesser-skilled but violent and experienced street savage can possibly beat the more technical fighter.  There are no Queensbury rules, gentlemen's agreement, off-limits strikes or tactics.   Those are quaint notions, but haven't applied since grade-school.

In 50 vs Mayweather in a bar-brawl, 50 strikes first and grabs FM in double-underhooks, runs him full tilt-boogie into a cigarette machine, bar, or support post, ending the bull-rush with a hard hockey-style check.  50 sweeps FM's legs and then put the boots or gnp to him.  Get's his back and RNC's his skinny little never-wrestled ass.

Why does 50 strike first?  Because a seriously experienced street fighter always will strike first.  They might even intentionally distract their opponent before striking.  So 50 gets the jump.

Mayweather is used to clinching with men his size, in a nice ring with traction and cute boots.  Not on tile, wet or sticky, carpet, concrete,or oily asphalt.  Not skating backwards in his fancy Italian smooth-bottomed shoes, Tito, while being grabbed by his tailored shirt, lifted up and manhandled by a much larger and stronger human. 

Mayweather is not at all used to having to be acutely aware of the surrounding battlefield.  He's used to a nice clean ring.  Not dancing amongst civilians, chairs, tables, stairs, drinkrails and brick walls while a strobe machine is flashing.  He never has to think about what will happen if his opponent in the ring will pick up a beer mug or is going to fling a bar-stool at his skinny ass just for fun.

Mayweather does not go from zero-to-savage instantaneously while fighting in the ring.  He has a long, premeditated, contemplated and planned-out time to get into that ring and mind-set.  A street/bar fight happens in a nano-second and is over in less than 2-minutes.  Usually much less.  The dude that is the most nasty-aggressive, strikes first, and follows through wins more often than not.  A seasoned, winning street fighter can indeed go from civil to Viking in an eye-blink.    Does FM have this type of split disposition that is actually highly discouraged in a pro fighter? 

A street fight is an all-out blitz, a sprint, of savagery and ultra-violence.  All offense, no defense, fuck cardio, ride the adrenalin and unleash maximum violence in minimal time.  It is not fair, has no rules, it is a primordial ugly affair and has no place in civilized and polite society.

It is in that unleashed chaos, turmoil and madness that 50 could, quite possibly, wreck Mayweather in a street/bar fight.

In ANY sanctioned fight, 50 gets his ass handed to him by FM.  Badly.

 


You have a thing for hyperbole and fanciful writing. Lulz.

 

You have a thing for being a jackass.  Which is not at all funny.

 

Insert Kimbo, or 50, or whomever you want.

My statements stand.  Just like in the recent OG thread where a Green Name agreed with the same basic analysis.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2354331/untrained-person-vs-a-pro-fighter/?&page=3

EDIT:   Read my posts and the follow-up by Owlfeeder (Green Name).

How does a guy in the Octagon beat a guy with superior skills?  Make it an ugly, nasty brawl.

How does a guy in a bar-fight beat FM?  Make it an ugly nasty brawl and take FM out of his very focused and one-dimensional set of world-class skills.  Surprise him with shit he has never dealt with prior.

 


Appeal to authority. That's a fallacious argument.

There are plenty of pro fighters who would pick Floyd to easily KO 50 cent.

I don't skitter around like a little girl when one of them happens to agree with me.

50 cent is about 5'11" 190-200 lbs. He's an average sized person, a non-athlete, and 40 years old to boot.

Someone like Kimbo would easily wreck Floyd.

50 fucking cent? GTFO.

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Why is this thread still going? 50 already beat Floyd's ass in 2012. In a straight boxing match Floyd would win. In a street fight if Floyd gets his shots off 1st 50 would be fucked. 50 would have to take it to the ground soon as shit popped off. Which is what he did. If you're still doubtful YouTube or Google 50 cent beat up Floyd Mayweather from 2012. Every body that thinks a stronger larger person can't out wrestle a smaller guy with no wrestling experience and pound him out is a neck beard. PBF is one of the best ever pound for pound in BOXING? Does he train sprawls or elbow escapes? Probably not. So take him out of his element and his boxing won't be very effective now will it? Phone Post 3.0
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let's get two things straight. 50 did some boys club. PAL level boxing. not golden gloves. 50 is not 'huge' he's around 190-200. floyd walks at around 150. he's giving up a serious amount of weight. so in a close quarters argument that turns into a tussle, then 50 has an edge. any situation that has them square off and exchange punches will have 50 looking idiotic. picked apart easily.outside of a flatout bullrush, that if there is space i would bet on mayweathers reflexes and timing, what hope would 50 have. do any sane person think in a squared up situation 50 the rapper could lay a punch on floyd mayweather? lol, gtfo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcn6mMiI9mQ

Cue up to 17:51....

I will take Emanuael Stewards word....

in 50's own words

http://www.mtv.com/bands/123/50_cent/news_feature_022505/

Brooklyn, New York's legendary Gleason's Gym is full of commotion, as usual. Aspiring and established pugilists drip with sweat as they grunt through their training regimens, dreaming of knocking somebody out at Madison Square Garden. But what is rare about this day is that many of the fist-throwers are fixated on one ring. They whip out their camera phones to capture one of Gleason's own, a man who has risen up the ranks to superstardom.

Unlike the gym's esteemed graduates like Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson and Zab "Super" Judah, however, this Gleason's alum made his name by laying his opponents down on wax, not in the ring.

  All Eyes On 50 Cent:
The Sequel
"Ahh man, I just wanted to come back through here," explains 50 Cent, who actually competed in the Junior Olympics back in the early '80s and who is now sparring in the ring. "I got a chance to come down here when I was training as an amateur fighter back in the day. I was too young to go to the Golden Glove competition at that point."

50 started boxing somewhere around the age of 10 or 11, but as an early teen he gave up his dream of ruling in the squared circle to hustle drugs in the street. Still, almost two decades removed from the ring, 50 says he continues to carry some of what he learned at Gleason's and that those lessons apply to his career as a rapp


5'11"

190 - 200 lbs

39 years old

Can't throw a baseball straight

Irrational Floyd haters (is there any other kind?) act like he's a 6'6", 250 lb NFL bruiser

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 Appeal to authority. That's a fallacious argument.

There are plenty of pro fighters who would pick Floyd to easily KO 50 cent. - Conan
 
Nope.  Just showing my fanciful writing holds no hyperbole.

 

I don't skitter around like a little girl when one of them happens to agree with me.

I don't act like an unmitigated asshole everytime someone disagrees with me.

 

50 cent is about 5'11" 190-200 lbs. He's an average sized person, a non-athlete, and 40 years old to boot.
 
I don't know how many throw-downs 50 has been in, but he is just an example of the general type of guy that could easily surprise and best a pro boxer at a 50 pound disadvantage in a bar brawl.  He's nowhere remotely close to "average" in terms of physique and strength.  Throwing a baseball is irrelevant.  Mayweather is 37, again irrelevant.  What matters is if a bar brawl would hit the ground, which would be up to 50.
 
Someone like Kimbo would easily wreck Floyd. 
 
Agreed.  However, Kimbo could not have wrecked Floyd back when Kimbo was doing his highly-structured back-yard boxing matches on Youtube.  Their wrestling skills would have been equal at zero.
 
 
 
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Hahahahaha.

So 50 cent can take down Floyd, but pre-MMA Kimbo couldn't. LMAO.

Kimbo was on the Miami Dolphins practice squad.

He would have easily tackled and killed Floyd (or 50 cent) with his bare hands at any point in his adult athletic career.


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