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3/10/04 9:39 AM
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tjmitch
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Any of you guys ever study or been exposed to Hsing I? I just recently have started learning it, and while the idea of differnt types of energy is interersting, the methodology and the techniques so far have not impressed me. Maybe I just need to give it more time. Anyone have any comments?
3/10/04 10:22 AM
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Hsing I is cool stuff. It's usefulness will depend largely on who your teacher is.
3/10/04 2:10 PM
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e. kaye has drill fisted the correct into this thread.
3/10/04 2:14 PM
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like I said, I have so far spent about 3 hours total learning this, so obviously I have a lot more to even scratch the surface. Although, I may have been a Hsing I master in a previous life, because I have been hitting my nephews with that one knuckle punch for years with devistating effect.
3/10/04 2:25 PM
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I'd like to second what e. kaye said. Plus it also depends on your training partners too. If they are willing to work hard (and you have good instruction), then yep, it's really cool stuff. I've been mucking around with it for almost 10 years, and it's been handy. Who are you training with? Vince
3/10/04 2:33 PM
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vbron, it isnt a hsing i school. The bulk of what I have learned is chaun fa or kenpo, with various elements ( no pun intended) of other chinnese styles mixed in.
3/10/04 2:43 PM
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Stick-I would say that it Pi Chien'ed the correct.
3/11/04 10:59 AM
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it is interesting, this morining I was doing SC( so right now I am kind of sore, but that is another story) , and saw splitting from Hsing I. If you look at what you are doing with your hands in "waist surrounding" the SC version of a hip throw, and you look at splitting, there are some similarities in what you are doing.
3/11/04 3:25 PM
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Xing I is a great style, I trained it off and on for 10 years. If you work it for awhile, you will find that it blends well with other styles. In addition, the "hair trigger, forward reaction" combat philosophy of the style is great for self defense. Too many practitioners get too caught up in the whole alchemy bit, though.
3/17/04 5:27 PM
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For those of you who practice Xingyi, how do you generate and/or feel the power? I've seen Xingyi done very "hard", almost like Shotokan Karate, with very external-looking punches and loud stomping footwork. I've also seen it done very "soft", more like, say, slow Chen taiji, with smooth flowing punches and soft, springy footwork. At several tournaments I've also seen it look very much like contemporary wushu, with a very erect posture, and an exagerated difference between slow and fast movements.
3/17/04 5:39 PM
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None of the above. Hard to explain, but XingI is explosive like an external style, but it is still an internal, energy based system. If it LOOKS like Tai Chi, it is wrong, if it FEELS like Karate, also wrong.
3/17/04 6:08 PM
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Shotokan is descended from Hsing I.
3/17/04 6:42 PM
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Weeellll... Xingyi goes thru phases of learning/understanding. An jing, ming jing etc. So there is an initial phase that might come off looking karate-ish. At a later phase there is some overlap in looking like taiji in that one tries to keep continueous power and connection thru every portion of the movement and to constantly keep moving. But these are developmental exercises and phases, not the nature of the art. I'd just hurt myself trying to describe how power is generated. But if you felt it, you'd know it. As for the shotokan connection...I'd love to see a reputable source for that. FWIW, I think xingyi and SC go great togther. Xingyi brings alot of bridging strategies to SC and opens up alot of options. Vince
3/18/04 9:45 AM
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"I've also seen it look very much like contemporary wushu," They have a "performance" style for everything, these days.
3/19/04 2:18 PM
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"FWIW, I think xingyi and SC go great togther. Xingyi brings alot of bridging strategies to SC and opens up alot of options. Vince" Vince has thrown down 5 elements of the Correct. And quit injuring my SC coach, OK :-p
3/22/04 1:14 PM
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Only when he quits trying to throw me over his head! It's self preservation I tell ya! V
3/22/04 7:49 PM
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h20dragon and vbrown, where are you guys from?
3/23/04 4:19 PM
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I live in beautiful, scenic Oakland, Ca. Can't speak for the damp lizard...:)
3/23/04 4:54 PM
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I'm currently on the South Side of Chicago (Actually NW Indiana) soon to be residing in beautiful San Antonio Texas!
3/24/04 1:00 AM
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Is John Wang's place in San Antonio? I've forgotten. That would be a hoot to be sure... V
3/24/04 10:05 AM
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Oh well, I was hoping you guys were closer to me, it would be nice to have more guys to play with. I'm in the NYC suburbs.
3/24/04 10:57 AM
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John Wang is in Austin 1 1/2 hours North. I'll be studying under one of his students in San An.
3/24/04 3:54 PM
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tjmitch Li Tai Liang may still have a school in Queens. If you google his name, a link with the info should come up. He kicks a whole lot of ass and is a really nice guy. V
3/25/04 10:34 AM
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Queens is on the opposite side of NYC from me...about 2 hours. I am in Orange county New york, so Rockland, Orange or Bergen County NJ are my range.
3/26/04 1:46 PM
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I would make the time to go 1x per week if I were in your situation. LTL is a rarity in CMA. He's 5 generation xingyi and holds a Masters degree in "martial arts" for the Physical Culture Academy in Beijing. (more like the kinesiology of martial arts is a better term). He was a trainer at the Beijing Police academy, and trained their San Da team. He's a "coach" instead of a "teacher", if you catch my meaning. FWIW, Vince

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