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5/7/04 1:45 AM
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Ken's shots are fast as any lightweight ive trained with. Look how much trouble Fujita had in taking Ken down. fight should stay standing as long as ken allows it. zawi
5/7/04 2:25 AM
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I remember reading on here that ken has a 600 lbs. bench press and can bench 400 lbs for 50 reps. Also said he could bench 500 in high school. I think I read this on here, doubt it's true, but if it is, that's impressive.
5/7/04 3:00 AM
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Ken is strong. zawi
5/7/04 11:27 AM
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"and can bench 400 lbs for 50 reps." LOL.... just LOL
5/7/04 3:32 PM
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I think the book said 250 for 50 reps. 400 for 50 is a whole separate league of lifters, not many around that could do this.
5/7/04 3:37 PM
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Ken has only been taken down ONCE in his entire MMA career, so that says a great deal. Tito took him down, but Tito has taken a lot of great fighters down. -------------------- Didn't Royce take him down in the first UFC?
5/7/04 3:42 PM
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Severn took him down also, in their second fight... Bri
5/7/04 3:46 PM
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kimo took him down also in their first fight.
5/7/04 3:46 PM
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Any conversaion calculator will show that whatever you do 10 times is 75% of max. 20 reps is half your max. 50 times would mean he could do about 1000 lbs. I think the world record is 700 and change, right?
5/7/04 3:57 PM
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Royce never took Ken down. Royce shot, Ken sprawled and reversed Royce and tried to mount. Royce guarded and Ken dropped back for an ankle. There was a scramble, they both stood up and then Royce pulled guard.
5/7/04 3:58 PM
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"Any conversaion calculator will show that whatever you do 10 times is 75% of max. 20 reps is half your max. 50 times would mean he could do about 1000 lbs. I think the world record is 700 and change, right? " the guy trains like a "catchwrestler" also it been said in the Lions den book Ken and his students do 500 squats and squats suck ass
5/7/04 4:28 PM
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"and can bench 400 lbs for 50 reps." only 50? your average UG member could overhead press that.
5/7/04 5:24 PM
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tito took ken down a few times. royce didnt- royce got pancaked. severn reversed from kens mount. fujita woulda got him down if he hadnt grabbed the ropes. but ken did sprawl great many times
5/7/04 6:02 PM
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Kimo ran in with a kick , ken grabbed it then took Kimo down. Kimo later reversed.
5/7/04 6:14 PM
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he juice..like all the lion's den guy...why do u think the keep dan henderson around...so i hear a little birdie tell me..
5/10/04 11:57 AM
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"400 lbs for 50 reps!!there is no fucking way amigo..im not sure if it has EVER been done, much less by KEN.." we all know this is unrealistic but I belive the 600 lb. bench......in his prime anyways. 500 plus for shure. Ken experemented with roids before his Pancrase days doing Pro. wresteling and maby in WWF but not for NHB. He did not allow roids in Lions Den. Ken's strength should rival Kimo's on Ken's worst day.
5/10/04 12:06 PM
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Giving up the 30-40 pounds, Shamrock's strength should be about the same as Kimo's but due to his quickness and experience, Ken's "mat strength" may exceed Kimo's. This may allow him to set up positions similar to the recent Frye fight where he had Don very close to throwing in the towel.
5/10/04 12:19 PM
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Harlan- This is true though in the first fight Kimo was good in the scramble and he has probably improved. The scrambling occured as Ken set up leg submissions. Ken should look to punish Kimo before setting up submissions unless one opens up. As for stand up they both hit hard. we know Ken has a great chin, not shure about Kimo. Ken has not looked good punching since the Fujita Fight so he should test the waters but be ready to shoot if he gets in trouble.
5/10/04 12:45 PM
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Its hard to predict what the standup will be like in this fight. I agree Ken should be careful and if Kimo starts to get the upper hand then shoot and force a ground fight. As for punishing Kimo before setting up a submission, I tend to disagree. Ken needs to get a submission early. Carrying the 260 pound Kimo on the ground could get tiring and the fresher Ken is then the more likely he can land a submission. Ken should do a few flurries standing up, some punching combos for example, then roll for a kneebar or other leg lock. He could win a long brawl by wearing Kimo down, but I think he has a better chance of catching the big man early.
5/10/04 1:14 PM
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Harlan- You may be right.I was just thinking Kimo would be easier to submit hurt and tired. On second thought it would be good to attempt submissions before they get too sweaty. I just dont want Ken to avoid striking on the ground compleatly like the first fight...although Ken submitted him and was a step ahead. If Ken sinks that heel hook Kimo will tap. "Ken got tooled with the gi and without the gi at the Machado academy" With the gi might make sense. But I can't pitchure anyone "TOOLING" Ken without the gi. Anyone have more info. on this?
5/10/04 1:53 PM
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5/10/04 2:17 PM
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5/10/04 2:17 PM
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5/10/04 6:47 PM
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JD - its a different game with the gi. Ken probably lost, but "tooled" is a subjective term and unimportant. Ken's grappling in the ring is much more important here.
5/10/04 10:12 PM
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At Mo's gym, I heard stories from everybody about Ken that rivaled the crazy stories you hear about Rickson. Like Rickson also, it seems that he just doesn't put as scary a package together when he actually fights.

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