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9/16/04 2:48 AM
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Lynn@Renzos
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This is by Robert Rodriguez "El Mariachi" Filmmaker Good Morning Class! Now a famous film-maker a while back said something about 'Everything you need to know about film you can learn in a week.' He was being generous. You can learn it in 10 minutes. Set your watches we will be out of here in ten kids. Okay, so you wanna be a film-maker? (Class choruses 'YES') Wrong! You ARE a film-maker. The moment you think about that you want to be a fillm-maker you're that. Make yourself a business card that says you're a film-maker, pass them out to your friends, soon as you get that over with and you've got it in your mind that you're one you'll be one, you'll start thinking like one. Don't dream about being a film-maker, you are a film-maker. Now let's get down to business. Let's Play!! What you need to learn is that being creative is not enough in this business. You have to become techinical. Creative people are born creative - you're lucky. Technical people however can never be creative. Its something they'll never get. You can't buy it, find it, study it - you're born with it. Too many creative people don't want to learn how to be technical, so what happens? they become dependent on technical people. Become technical, you can learn that. If you're creative and technical, you're unstoppable. Experience - Do you have experience in movies? You do, right - you WATCH movies. Now you need to have movie experience - you're not going to learn from just watching movies, you're learn some things, you'll learn more picking up a camera, making your own films, your own mistakes - mistakes don't have to be mistakes, everything is subjective - a mistake to one person is actually a piece of art to someone else. Hide behind that, tell everyone its art, you can get away a lot. Start with a screenplay. Does anybody here know how to write? No - good. Everyone else writes the same way. Start writing your way. That makes you unique. You can take writing classes, that's good, but don't bother to go to film school or you'll be making films like everybody else. We want to see your film. How do you write a script? Well, you obviously don't have a lot of money or you wouldn't be in my class. So you wanna make a movie but you don't want to spend a lot. You're gonna come up with problems everyday on your set. You can get rid of the problem one of two ways - you can do it creatively or you can wash it away with the money hose. You got no money, you got no hose. So let's make a screenplay for a movie you can actually make without having to make your parents poor. Let's make a cheap movie. (cont.)
9/16/04 2:49 AM
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(cont.) How do you make a cheap movie? - Look around you, what do you have around you? Take stock in what you have. Your father owns a liquor store - make a movie about a liquor store. Do you have a dog? Make a movie about your dog. Your mom works in a nursing home, make a movie about a nursing home. When I did El Mariachi I had a turtle, I had a guitar case, I had a small town and I said I'll make a movie around that. How do you visualise a movie? With storyboards, you can do that. You can previsualise your movie and draw them out, but what you should really do is make a blank screen for yourself and watch your movie. Close your eyes and stare at this. Imagine a screen, imagine your movie. Shot for shot, cut for cut. Sit there, close your eyes and get rid of everybody, get rid of all your thoughts in your head except your movie and watch your movie. Is it too slow? Is it too fast? Is it funny? Does it make sense? Watch it and then write down what you see. Write down the shots that you see. And then just go get those shots. Equipment. OK let's go over the equipment. The worse the better. You don't want anything too fancy, remember this is your first movie - you're not Spielberg yet. I used this one for El Mariachi, almost the same one, I used a 16M this is a 16S, this is exactly what I had. It helped me move fast because it was light, it was very noisy so I could do the sound in a wacky way, but this thing here would cost you about $2000. Don't spend that kind of money, find some monkey that own's one. I found somone who had one of these sitting around, he wasn't using it. I borrowed it from him, I shot my movie. (Points at what look's like a damn heavy tripod) Look at it, this is a nice stand, its a very solid stand, y'know what's gonna happen? The camera is gonna stay on the stand, you're just gonna keep it there, 'cos its so nice, meaning your movie's gonna look...stiff. Take it off of there, sit in a wheelchair, push yourself around, get some energy in your film. That's the great thing about first films is that they have so much life and so much energy. Big productions can't even duplicate that energy, because they've got too good a stand and too much crew and everything is really smooth and polished and its lifeless. Add life to your film by getting rid of the fancy stuff. (Points at the tripods) Too good, too heavy, too good - just use your hands. Here's a lightmeter, this isn't the write one, I broke my other one. This is a spotmeter, that's OK but it's too fancy. You just need one with a little white dome on it, point it to your subject, read the light, look at the number on your lightmeter - remember your lightmeter is your friend - feed that into lens and the iris, and then you're set. Start shooting. Don't overlight. On Mariachi I had two lights, regular lightbulbs, they were balanced for indoor film, so look fine. In fact everyone said the lighting looked moody because there was very little light . Your mistakes, your shortcomings suddenly becomes artistic expression. Finally, postproduction. When you've finished shooting your movie what do you do? (Picks up video mixer) These are your friends my friends. Video editing systems, computer editing systems, anything like that, its immediate, its easy, its cheap. Do not cut on film. Film is your enemy. You may be shooting on film but don't cut on film. If any of you want to cut on film get out of my class right now. Go spend $20,000 on a real film school and do that. You'll never get a job though - believe me. (cont.)
9/16/04 2:50 AM
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(cont.) Everything is on computers or video these days. Film is slow, film is expensive, film is not creative - film take's too long. Cut on tape that's what I do. I shot Mariachi for nothing. I edited on video. I had a three- quarter inch master that looked beautiful because the negative was transferred right to tape. There was no middleman so it looked like 35mm - clean, pristine. I made VHS copies of this, sent them out all over Hollywood. I never made a film print. (Picks up film strip) Waste of money. You have to string them up, they get worn out. They're expensive. They're copies of your negative. You don't want that, you don't want copies of your negative, you want your negative...on tape. Where people can duplicate it and watch it and get you work. OK so you've made your movie, you've cut it, you've got it out, people want you. What do you do? The first thing you want to do is get an agent - right away. Hollywood is full of sharks, you need a shark working for you. These guys go and get you the best deals, they get you the best prices, they get you the best movies. What you've learnt is what no one else has. How to make a movie dirt cheap. No one else in Hollywwod knows how to do that. You guys can make them cheap, you guys can make them better, don't get swallowed in the system, take advantage of your position. Now I make movies that are still low budget but they look like big budget movies because I learnt the techniques that I just showed you today. All right I've got to go back and do my own films so I hope you guys learnt something today, I hope you grab some of these cameras and go shoot something of your own, I hope you write down the ideas that you have, the dreams that you have. Stop aspiring, start doing. See you in Hollywood - be scary!
9/16/04 9:39 AM
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Rockin'.
9/16/04 2:42 PM
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Rodriguez is technical. He knows his stuff and will always have a job in Hollywood because he consistantly makes films on time and under budget. Unfortunately, I can't stand anything he's done with the exception of El Mariachi
9/16/04 4:04 PM
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Paw...you are right about that. El Mariachi was the best thing he ever did.
9/16/04 5:26 PM
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Rodriguez sucks and I am very afraid that he might fuck up Sin City.
9/17/04 12:39 AM
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ptm2020...I never saw Spy Kids but read a ton about the process he went through making it. He came up with the way the 3-D was shot. He may make some bad movies as some say, but he is a creative genius in the sense that he really busts his ass on figure out how to make a movie. The shorts he did in college were great! demoness...i figured you would like him, with his name and all.
9/17/04 12:50 PM
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Awesome Class!
9/17/04 6:01 PM
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Liyon
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I don't like his movies, but I like him as a film-maker.
9/19/04 6:42 PM
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Rodriguez's DVDs are worth the purchase for the extras only. Trust me you'll learn so much and be so inspired by what he says. p.s. Check out his new film Sin City. Totally cool look.
9/19/04 6:49 PM
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http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/STUVWXYZ/SinCity/trailer.php
10/1/04 3:54 AM
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adding to "my threads"......................... now
10/1/04 8:53 AM
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10/3/04 10:38 PM
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it's kind of funny that El Mariachi was his (in my opinion) best movie...it's my favourite by him and what has probably inspired independent filmaking big time in the last 10 years.
10/19/04 9:49 AM
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ttt I rented Rodriguez Spy Kids 3D for the special features. As usual, while I didn't care for the movie, the "10 minute film school" feature is worth seeing.
10/19/04 3:09 PM
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Yeah I just watched "El Mariachi" again but this time I rented it for the"10 Minute Film School" feature, interesting stuff. Kind of reminded me of when I made my 8mm kung fu flix as a kid.I ordered his book "Rebel Without a Crew' from amazon and I started reading"Make Your Own Damn Movie" last night.Went to a workshop at Splash Studios in NYC last week on Digital audio post production. Most of it was over my head but it was interesting. I can get some books to fill in the gaps.
10/19/04 6:36 PM
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supernaut...next time there is a workshop, post about it on here so we can go too. "Rebel Without a Crew" is a solid book as is "Make Your Own Damn Movie". Both great reads.
11/14/05 7:07 PM
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Its hard to believe this guy would make movies like Shark Boy and Spy Kids. I still remember the audience going ballistic at the trailer before Star Wars for Shark KId.

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