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3/6/05 6:41 PM
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Chang
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Edited: 06-Mar-05
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Does free will even truly exist? Everything we do and experience is interdependent and relative. Our freedom exists within our context. Our experiences are not up to us to control. We do what we can with our experiences to shape us into who we want to be, but even our ability to do that is previously determined by our past experiences that have made us into who we are now. And it seems that one is never truly free unless one has become enlightened, that one has reached and know and understand everything there is. Then, he is able to make choices, not based on the circumstances he finds himself in, but because of himself, as he really is.
3/6/05 8:47 PM
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vermonter
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Edited: 06-Mar-05
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"Does free will even truly exist?" No. Check out the "we have no responsibility" thread for more :) Otherwise, i dont really know what to say to the rest of your post. -doug-
3/26/05 3:58 PM
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Edited: 26-Mar-05
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""Does free will even truly exist?" No.
4/4/05 1:25 PM
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Edited: 04-Apr-05
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sounds like a bunch of hard determinist to me
4/11/05 3:33 PM
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Edited: 11-Apr-05
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Free will does on a subtle level exist but it can be equated with Will Power. See how many times you have decided to change something very, very difficult and how many times were you sucsessful untill today...
4/12/05 11:49 AM
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Bushhog, The degree of difficulty of an action does not make it a free action. Consider, for example, someone threatened to kill you unless you hiked a very tall mountain. You've never been able to hike all the way to the top before, but you are able to this time. This is an example of an action that is clearly not of your own free will (although i suppose this point is debatable, most people wouldnt argue) in which you overcome difficult odds. It satisfies your criteria without being intuited as free action. Will power, no matter how strong, does not (in the general understanding of these terms) ever equate to free will. -doug-

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