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9/10/05 1:25 PM
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GiHickies
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I've recently become interested in living a more natural life. Like buying some land in the middle of nowhere, building a log cabin, and installing my own self-sustaining energy sources like solar panels and wind powered generators. Did you know you could even compost your own 'waste'? http://www.weblife.org/humanure/default.html It seems gross at first, but objectively, it is way more energy efficient and better for the environment.
9/23/05 6:38 PM
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I think if you can wait a few years there will be some new technologies that will make your off the grid dreams more feasible. Google Sterling Engine solar energy sunflower. I think these are twice as efficent as photo voltaic pannels.
9/27/05 10:33 AM
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kanotoa is right. There are developmenets in solar technology that will revolutionize off-the-grid living. I have been tempted to do this on occasion, but my wife would never go for it right now. We did just buy some land in a town with a population of 2,000 and plan to build a retreat there.
9/27/05 7:12 PM
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SyrioForel, where is you land exactly? How much space do you have and what is it like. Persoanlly I'd love to homestead. With a nice off the grid system I think you could really live a better life. I like reading solar power magazine and I like to read about people living their dreams off the grid. They are insulated against the uncertainties of the fossil fuel market. If you could get a system that was a little stronger you could use it to power an electric car too.
9/27/05 7:32 PM
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It's in northern New Hampshire nestled in the White Mountains. It is only a shade under 4 acres. I could have gotten up to 11 acres with the money I had on hand, but I opted for this one due to location. The lot is flat and buildable in many areas despite being on a mountain, which was rare from many lots I looked at. It is on a publicly maintained, paved road that is only 15 minutes from a major highway, yet it still offers a feeling of seclusion. It is convenient to some of the best mountains in the northeast for skiing/snowboarding. It is convenient to the largest national park (800,000 acres) in the East which is obviously full of great hiking, rock climbing, and mountain biking areas. It is within minutes of whitewater and flatwater for kayaking/canoeing. I really couldn't ask for more in a retreat. It wouldn't be a bad place to go off the grid either, but I think if I was going to do that, I'd go even further out. In a few years though that may change. I could see myself moving there and becoming a total adventure sports bum and scratching a living consulting and teaching. It's just getting the wife in the same frame of mind.
9/27/05 7:54 PM
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Post some picture later. I'd really need high speed internet though to avoid feeling isolated. WIMAX should become available to you. You can always use that land as a worst case senario plan B if civilization as we know it goes to hell.
9/27/05 8:24 PM
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I actually have very limitted pictures, so I'll post some next time I visit in a couple weekends. Sattelite is where it's at for backwoods internet access...
9/27/05 11:47 PM
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Gotta do MMA.tv even if you are living off da grid!
9/29/05 1:17 AM
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Any URLs you can recommend for living off-the-grid? Off-topic: What about blueprints for energy-efficient houses in earthquake country? Say Northern CA or Southern OR? Thanks.
10/1/05 8:00 PM
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Judo, I just read a good articel on zero-energy homes in newsweek. Try and Google that or "Calrum homes" they build houses in California.
10/4/05 2:18 PM
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Syrio if you dont mind, what did you pay for it?
10/4/05 3:23 PM
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SyrioForel
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In the ballpark of 45k.
10/5/05 11:45 AM
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Nice. I wouldnt mind getting some land up there. Im about to start a book called "The Good Life". Found an old one in in a tiny bookstore in Wellfleet, Cape Cod a few weeks ago. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805209700/103-6845135-0343014?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
10/5/05 11:57 AM
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I don't think I could ever give up and move out completely. I need money to travel the world on. :)
10/5/05 12:28 PM
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Me too, but just thumbing through the book it looks like it has a lot of useful info that may be easily incorporated into still a modern existance.
10/5/05 1:19 PM
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I'll check it out. My wife is being a teacher, so we have many B&N gift certificates.
10/5/05 9:13 PM
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SyrioForel, do you produce more power than you use? If so you should get some electric vehicles.
10/6/05 12:47 PM
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Maybe someday.
10/9/05 9:22 AM
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No real good pictures to be had from my trip to my land yesterday. It was pouring out, but I had to go to see what the surveyor was saying. I was very happy in the end. The boundaries of my land are being much bigger than I had initially been thinking. I am climbing Mt Lafayette in two weeks, so I will be having some better pictures of my land then.
10/31/05 5:42 PM
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I heard the sterling engine or thin membrane PV cells will be twice as cost effect as todays technologies. I think they are only 2 years away, though cold fusion has been 10 years away forever.
11/2/05 1:23 AM
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www.backwoodshome.com Lots of good info on the site and in the forums especially.
11/6/05 7:54 PM
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I prefer Urban Sprawl
12/10/05 9:25 PM
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I grew up with nobody around. I refused to do that to my child so I'll stay in the 'burbs until he goes to college.

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