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2/4/06 1:14 PM
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chickenfeet
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i know that the "underhook and pike" control is a big part of the isr standing control program...or at least that's the impression i've gotten from the preview vids. does anyone use this in jits rolling?
2/4/06 1:32 PM
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Luis Gutierrez
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Once past the legs or as part of a pass with little adjustments, yes. It is just a moment of control either way which gives you optiions off the ones they take.
2/6/06 7:18 PM
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I use it all the time. Both offensive and defensive depending on the position. It's one of my "go-tos" for underhook & overhook control. It's the simultaneous head control that makes me warm inside. I also use my own head for "piking" under the jaw line. This is when both hands are busy pummeling. But beware, when you pike a wrestler with your head, be prepared for him to act like a bull. Placement and timing is everything. Dave Copeland
2/6/06 11:33 PM
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FJJ828
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Like Luis said,it is a moment of control. It is not so much of a control in itself as there are certain counters/ resistance that will become obvious once it goes live. I hit it all the time going head to head from the knees.
2/7/06 5:58 PM
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Jorx
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The countless Aikido shoulderlocks one could do from there:)
2/9/06 3:46 AM
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FJJ828
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I usually finish it off with a 3 point prone handcuffing pin. Works like a charm even on BJJ Purple & Brown belts. Especially when I tweak it with a wristlock and a pressure point behind the ear. Seriously.......
2/11/06 2:49 PM
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mandalalisten
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828 what is the handcuff pin?
2/11/06 2:52 PM
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Luis Gutierrez
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Mande... When Fletch says seriously....he has worked waaaay to many detials and over time. And...don't call him surely. :) -Luis
2/12/06 6:13 PM
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bingo! Jusk Kidding on the handcuff pin........or was I? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2/16/06 1:41 PM
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Matt Thornton
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shirly your kidding ; )

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