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TUF 16 >> TUF 4 = worst season by far


9/1/06 2:00 PM
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robopimp
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Alright, feel free to jump on me if this has been posted already, which is should have been after every single crappy episode. There are two major reasons I say this: 1) The storylines are almost non-existant. Plus Randy and GSP never get any camera time - what's up with that? 2) This is the worst crop of fighters yet. I'm prepared for people to rip me a new one on this, but really - these are just marginal fighters by UFC standards. I'm sure the worst fighters this season are better than the worst fighters on TUF 1-3, but the best fighters aren't as good and that's ultimately how I judge the show. TUF 1-3 arguably might all produce a champion at some point. TUF 4 will not. I don't want to see any of these guys fight for a title because every time they had big fights in the UFC they lost. Cote is one of the best guys here and he lost to Leben. Spratt lost to Koscheck. Shonie lost to Quarry. These may be the most experienced TUFers, but they're also the worst. Discuss.
9/1/06 2:16 PM
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robopimp
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I want both. Granted, the storylines are starting to pick up, but the reason Forrest and Diego are stars isn't just because people watched them fight, it's because people got a chance to see their personalities and found them interesting. Also, the fights have pretty much sucked. Even the DeWees fight, which was the bloodiest I've ever seen, was pretty boring without the blood.
9/1/06 2:30 PM
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I totally disagree, i think it has been the best so far, no lame ass "drama", no fighters pussing out, just quality, established fighters. If i want to watch manufactured drama (which I don't) I'll watch some other dumb reality show.
9/1/06 2:41 PM
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Best season yet, imo
9/1/06 5:24 PM
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Charles T Rose
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By far the best season Little drama,no punk ass bitches and great fights.
9/2/06 7:35 AM
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JasonGV
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I think its better than the last one, i didnt see the first two. No childish drama or immature antics.
9/2/06 9:43 AM
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You know what I like most about this season so far?  It's when Dana recaps the fighters previous times in the UFC and what happened to them.
9/2/06 10:26 AM
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walbjj
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best season yet, cant stand to watch untrained fairies who think they can fight but really are just wannabe bums
9/2/06 1:18 PM
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Mark Hunter
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I was thinking that this is the best season BY FAR.
9/2/06 1:45 PM
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hakeem0530
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best season by far
9/2/06 5:14 PM
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AWSolis
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Best so far
9/2/06 6:41 PM
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Lahi
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Definately the best.
9/2/06 11:17 PM
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Pavia, Ciscone, and Associates
Second best to the first season.
9/3/06 7:53 AM
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Live in Vegas
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This exactly what I was hoping TUF would be since season one. Training, fights and just a sprinkling of the house (and no more stupid challenges thank god). I honestly don't care if every fighter I watch is "championship material", I care if they have skills and heart and put on a good show. And IMO there are some true world class guys on there this year, hard to ask for more then that.
9/4/06 10:14 PM
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azmatt
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Great to see some of the older fighters get a chance, hope they do another like this in a few more seasons.
9/5/06 12:03 AM
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i really like this season. i prefer to have the focus on the fighting aspect and they're doing that so far. plus, the talent is much better than any other season. there are going to be some awesome fights.
9/5/06 5:23 PM
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Best season so far, by quite some distance
9/7/06 1:01 AM
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Would you rather have a fat pussy like last year say: "I can't stand being in the house cause it's too much like jail??"
9/7/06 6:46 PM
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Chappie
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This is the best season yet. In addition, this is the first time that I have ever agreed with Live in Las Vegas on any post.
9/8/06 12:43 AM
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"the reason Forrest and Diego are stars isn't just because people watched them fight, it's because people got a chance to see their personalities and found them interesting." As far as I can tell, the vast majority of people here hate Diego based entirely on his personality (because there is certainly nothing to hate about his fighting), and during the show everyone wanted him to get his ass kicked.
9/8/06 2:16 AM
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Why TUF4 is better than the first three seasons: No drama involving girlie-man whining No peeing on other guys' beds or farting around breaking crap all over the house like a bunch of likkered-up frat morons No failing to make weight or deciding that maybe the fighter lifestyle really isn't what you want after all No Tuffman-level fights Why TUF4 is worse than the first three seasons: No drama involving guys gut-checking to see if they can man up to the challenge No watching as the participants visibly improve right before your eyes and turn into actual fighters No chance to watch virtual unknowns emerge before your eyes into good, great, or even possible champion fighters Overall: Best season yet. But I hope TUF5 is back to the original premise. Having a redemption season every four or five seasons is probably good enough.
9/8/06 2:19 AM
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Let me get this straight.....people complain about the no-name fighters with little talent on TUF1-3. Now they complain about more well known fighters with lots of talent? And they want drama? Watch a soap opera then. Bad TUF is better than 90% of television. Fact.
9/8/06 4:18 AM
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I rather enjoy this season. first was the best second was slow third has stupid pro wrestling feel with tito vs. Ken. 4th season is a very solid #2.
9/8/06 12:41 PM
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Pinback
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Hands down, best season so far.
9/8/06 1:04 PM
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I like how the fighters this season are not self promoting throughout the show (Melvin, Southworth). They are just themselves. Din Thomas is a very funny guy. I nearly fell out of my chair at the look on Serra's face when he said that black people don't get staph.

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