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11/10/06 9:38 AM
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Has anyone read fictional short stories about fighting, wrestling, martial arts or any other (non-sanctioned boxing) one-on-one combat? If so, which ones are good? Thanks.
11/10/06 12:30 PM
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I did a search, and I found that he wrote under the name Robert W. Smith, but I couldn't find any short fiction authored by either name. What book should I look for to find his fiction work? Thanks.
11/14/06 12:23 PM
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You have to read "Million Dollar Baby" (originally from a book of short stories called Rope Burns) by F. X. Toole. There's about four or five short boxing stories that are amazing. Toole was a real trainer that unfortunately died before the movie came out. He also wrote a novel that I plan on reading.
11/17/06 9:53 AM
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RANSOME by J. McInerey was pretty good. It's more about TMA, but it's well written. The author also wrote BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY. -knee
11/20/06 4:41 PM
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Great. Keep them coming, please! Thank you.
11/22/06 9:19 AM
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the duelists by joseph conrad i think. they made a good movie about it. it's based around two men who met for a series of duels over their lifetimes.
11/22/06 2:46 PM
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I think the movie is just called "The Duellist". Not 100% sure -- but great movie (Ridley Scott directed; not too great an accent from the great Harvey Keitel, for those who care about such things).
11/25/06 4:19 PM
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Some good books of fighting are: Ghosts of Manila The Devil and Sonny Liston Black Ajax by, George MacDonald Fraser. Fictioalized biography of George Melinox, the first great black heavy. Robert Howard wrote some good short stories (fictonal of course) surrounding the fight game. Jack London is another writer of note who covered fighting. There's more, let me look around.
11/26/06 3:44 PM
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Hemingway has a short called "Fifty Grand." It's worth a read. My favorite Hemingway story anyway.
11/27/06 4:09 PM
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Sir arthur conan doyle of sherlock holmes fame wrote a novel about a boxer called "Rodney stone", he also wrote at least 3 short stories about boxing. See, http://www.siracd.com/life/life_sports.shtml Also check this title out. http://www.amazon.ca/Boxings-Best-Short-Stories-Staudohar/dp/1556523645
11/30/06 4:02 PM
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I love you guys. Keep them coming. Thanks.
11/30/06 4:02 PM
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I should mention that Pickney Benedict's Dogs of God starts off with great fighting.
12/9/06 1:01 AM
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Read "By the Sword" by Richard Cohen. Alot of the stories are pretty incredible, even though they are supposedly true.
12/11/06 1:26 PM
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Actually, it is the other way around. Robert W. Smith wrote under the name of John Gilby. Alot of that stuff written under the Gilby name was supposed to be satire, but was taken seriously. From what I understand, the pseudonym came about when Smith, Don Drager, and some buddies were drinking one night, and decided to name their fictional character after Gilby's Gin, which they had just been imbibing. In terms of other stuff, not as much MA related as traditional Asian, but the James Clavell series is quite good, Shogun, Taipan, Gaijin.....The movies were horrid, but the novels are terrific.
12/13/06 5:07 PM
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Howard, because of his pulp origins, is a very underrated writer, his boxing stories and comic westerns are among his best. I hope you enjoy his writing, he's a great American writer. If you do, check out Mark Finn's bio of Howard, Blood & Thunder.
12/14/06 10:55 AM
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http://www.mainstreampublishing.com/mainstream_response.php
12/15/06 7:48 AM
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http://www.wildsidebooks.com/view_category.asp?cat=196
1/12/07 10:21 PM
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Barry Eisler writes the John Rain books and he is a black belt in Judo, trained at the Kudokan for a while and has a pretty decent knowledge of MMA as well. Not fight books per say but good fight scenes.
1/12/07 10:45 PM
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A piece of steak-Jack London.
12/24/07 1:17 PM
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Thom Jones' "The Pugilist at rest," "Sonny Liston was a friend of mine," and "Cold Snap." Amazing stuff with lots of boxer stories.
12/25/07 2:24 PM
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I found the Gilby book on eBay, a treasure for sure.
12/30/07 2:15 PM
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