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12/1/06 8:45 AM
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BrainofPJ
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I'm a Philosophy student and a boxer. I've recently been studying Hegel focusing on his master/slave dialectic. It struck me how accurately it applies to fighting in a ring. Assuming that the two opponents are similar to begin with, there is always that fatal, determining moment when one opponents chooses to go all out and risk everything and the other backs down, paralleling the moment when teh slave chooses life and the master chooses recognition over life. What do you guys think? Do you understand fighting as an attempt to gain a certain recognition whereby the opponent grasps that no matter what, you won't give up?
12/12/06 4:29 AM
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Orishas
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you dont go to UCLA do you? i had a phil class with a boxer.
12/14/06 12:15 PM
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BrainofPJ
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nope, Warwick University in England. What do you think about my analogy though?
2/5/07 1:26 AM
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Good.
8/12/08 6:06 AM
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baxter stockman
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 read le revolte by camus.
8/18/08 10:53 PM
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 I agree. Whenever I see a fighter in survival mode, the hits are starting to hurt him and he just wants it to stop. The fighter that is "on top" begins to "smell blood" and can feel invulnerable. The disparity increases when the dominant fighters aggression does.
8/21/08 2:26 PM
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Seul
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My judo teacher told me that he (and other experienced competitors) could tell whenever grips were first established whether or not his opponent was afraid of him; he also said that he could be certain he'd win if they were.

I think your analogy makes a lot of sense...

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