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12/2/06 11:14 PM
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Just bought the DVD. Anyone know the specs of this car? BTW, Sally Field was hot back then.
12/14/06 12:41 AM
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iirc, It's a 1975 TransAm with a 455ci V8 engine. Can't remember the specs, but I've got them in a book on the history of Firebirds somewhere. I'll see if I can find the book. One thing is for sure though, is that the 70's saw the end of the first muscle car era due to restrictions placed on cars to reduce emissions. The Pontiac Firebird TransAm was the LAST of the muscle cars to comply, and had more power in the mid-70's than you could get in any other domestic vehicle. :-) Gotta love the bird on the hood, too.
12/14/06 10:40 AM
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That's not a 75 and smokey only had a 400.
12/14/06 1:51 PM
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I thought it was a '78?
12/14/06 2:36 PM
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My bad, it's a '77 Everything you ever wanted to know about the '77 TA
12/14/06 8:26 PM
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Yep, it was a '77 model. The version you could buy on the street had a mild 400. The cars used in the movie were tweaked, and some may have had 455's. I know in '78 and '79 the top version of the 400 was rated at 220hp, but it had alot more torque - I believe the '77 motor was rated lower, but was essentially the same. The exhaust was routed through a horribly restrictive pellet-type catalytic converter, and owners quickly realized that just adding a decent dual exhaust system (and removing the cat) added ALOT of power. Bone stock, most of these cars were low/mid-15 performers at the drags, with a FEW dipping into the high-14's. A set of headers and a decent exhaust would get them into the 13's, though.
12/16/06 3:11 AM
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Yup, you are correct. '76 was the last year of the 455 in street production. The Bandit was indeed a '77. What really gets me is how far technology and emissions have come. A '77 6.6L V8 had 200 hp and 325 tq Compare that to the 6.6L LS2 stroker that I put in my '89 Firebird Formula which has roughly triple the hp and double the tq!! Gotta love the 21st century. :-) (Although I definitely wouldn't mind owning a Bandit edition T/A!)
12/17/06 2:19 AM
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Thanks for the responses. Sorry the Sally Field picture turned into a gold frog.
12/17/06 3:32 PM
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Well, her knick name in the movie WAS "Frog". FYI, there was "hidden" power in those cars, courtesy of Pontiacs engineers. The "cosmetic" hood scoop could be made into a VERY functional and effective "cold air" system with about 10 minutes work. The scoop (which WAS functional in earlier T/A's) had to be sealed off to meet federal noise requirements of the time. The engineers still made it seal tightly to the air cleaner, and used a high-flow lid inside the aircleaner itself. Open the scoop, install slightly richer metering rods, and you picked up about 15-20hp. The heads flowed much more than what was needed, and were installed with 2.11" intake and 1.66" exhaust valves. It was VERY easy to install a 455 shortblock under those heads, and you'd have 9.25-.50 compression (perfect for premium pump gas) with enough airflow to run well into the 12's.
12/18/06 5:04 PM
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"409's in the early 60's were rated at 425" Dude, you KNOW that horsepower was rated TOTALLY different back then, right? The 409's hp was measured with no accesories, no air cleaner, with headers and open exhaust. Bone stock, most of those cars were hard pressed to run mid-14's, not much quicker than the 220hp T/A's In '71 or '72, hp ratings were with stock exhaust manifolds, mufflers, air cleaners, and all accessories mounted. EVERY car saw huge hp rating drops in that time frame, even on motors that had no changes. http://www.fastraces.org/members/fastraces/fastraces.nsf/822dcaaaa26c6da985256dd80023623d/46be2c67b9a880c2852571940072a8e0!Opendocument has some racing results of fairly stock cars, one 409 in it didn't fare too well. Corvettes had even less hp than the T/A's. Turbo V-6 regals had much less, as did the Mustangs. So how does it NOT have to do with the time period? 220 was pretty much the high-water mark for the time.
12/19/06 12:05 PM
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Dude........you're ignorant almost to the point of being stupid if you don't educate yourself upon which you comment.
12/21/06 12:36 PM
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Yes......I grew up on key biscayne. I drove a 1969 SS427 impala while there. You will never get within 20 years worth of my experience and knowledge even if I stop now and live another 60 years.
12/21/06 1:10 PM
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"ok ponyboy, a 409 in a biscayne is the same as an impala? Do you even know what the fuck a biscayne is? "

lol....ahhhh. somethings are just too funny around.

12/21/06 1:52 PM
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he's right strip that shit and its still a dog.
12/21/06 3:00 PM
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A very valuable dog.
12/22/06 9:18 AM
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Dude...........I have driven more biscaynes before you were born than you will ever drive in your entire life. I have a 8 barrel manifold at home for a SS409.
12/22/06 9:44 AM
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"yes because an impala,a bel air and a biscayne are all the same"

other than trim levels, what, in your estimation was the difference in weight between those three models...considering they all had the same frame and body.

12/22/06 11:31 AM
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Toyota Supra had 110hp in '79, and top model Mustang had 143hp.
12/22/06 12:43 PM
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They also forgot to include the caprice.
12/22/06 1:04 PM
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"They also forgot to include the caprice. "

wasn't the caprice the later model name used to replace the bel air/biscayne? i can't remember ever seeing caprice on anything like pre-68?

and the reason why i didn't include it was due to the fact that he initially referred to 409's which weren't available after 65.

but hey, who's splitting hairs??? lol

12/22/06 7:12 PM
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Go check out jesse james site for this bad boy!

12/23/06 10:05 AM
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http://www.348-409.com/images/cl624094.jpg for a road test on the 409 http://www.iwaynet.net/~gl&lisk/1979ta.html for a test on a 79 T/A The "220hp" T/A was 2-tenths and 2mph quicker than the "380hp" 409, even though the weights were similar, the 409 was larger, had more compression ratio and steeper gears.
12/25/06 10:13 AM
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yeah but,does the trans am have a cool song written about it?
12/25/06 1:00 PM
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yeah but,does the trans am have a cool song written about it? Are you fucking serious? Eastbound and Down
East bound and down, loaded up and truckin',
We're gonna do what they say can't be done.
We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I'm east bound, just watch ol' "Bandit" run.
Keep your foot hard on the pedal. Son, never mind them brakes.
Let it all hang out 'cause we got a run to make.
The boys are thirsty in Atlanta and there's beer in Texarcana.
And we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.
East bound and down, loaded up and truckin',
We're gonna do what they say can't be done.
We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I'm east bound, just watch ol' "Bandit" run.
East bound and down, loaded up and truckin',
We're gonna do what they say can't be done.
We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I'm east bound, just watch ol' "Bandit" run.
Ol' Smokey's got them ears on and he's hot on your trail.
He ain't gonna rest 'til you're in jail.
So you got to dodge 'im and you got to duck 'im,
You got to keep that diesel truckin'.
Just put that hammer down and give it hell.
East bound and down, loaded up and truckin',
We're gonna do what they say can't be done.
We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I'm east bound, just watch ol' "Bandit" run
Written by Jerry Reed
From the movie Smokey and the Bandit featuring Burt Reynolds
12/25/06 1:28 PM
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and, Sammy Hagar's "Highway Wonderland" You can find it on his "Street Machine" albulm.

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