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1/9/07 4:13 PM
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David Lea
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The repubs on this board are seriously brain damaged to try and blame ANY of the mess in Iraq on the Dems! The repubs started a war that nobody wanted. Then invaded with way fewer soldiers then was recommended by all the top brass in the military. Then didn't even provide adequate equipment for the soldiers. Then started a passive draft keeping soldiers in Iraq way past their original tour dates..... Ya, the repubs track record has been stellar!
1/9/07 4:13 PM
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"If you support it, you have to participate." Did I say that? Where's the quote? But there's a time for cheerleading and a time to get in the game. The military is depleted. IT NEEDS TROOPS. Does it not make sense to say: Hey, for the guys who support this war, we need help. Enlist today! Why does that make you so mad?
1/9/07 4:14 PM
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Jack Carter
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The same type of "surge" was tried in Viet Nam. It accomplished nothing but getting more Americans soldiers killed. LMFAO! We increased out troop level by 500,000 troops by 1969. It was in that year we began to see a sharp decrease in US casualties. Before the pullout, casualty rates decreased significantly and enemy combatant deaths were increasing significantly. By adding more troops in vietnam, we SIGNIFICANTLY decreased the troop level/casualties ratio.
1/9/07 4:17 PM
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LOL at delusional Jack trying to claim success in Vietnam! Now it all makes sense.
1/9/07 4:17 PM
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The repubs on this board are seriously brain damaged to try and blame ANY of the mess in Iraq on the Dems! Yeah, except for the part where sending them reinforcements is in their hands. Thankfully, they have brain dead muppets like you running around telling everyone how somehow their move to abandon the troops is a great thing and that somehow Bush trying to send reinforcements is a bad thing.
1/9/07 4:19 PM
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LOL at delusional Jack trying to claim success in Vietnam Delusional? You can't even comprehend what you read. I was giving statistics. Before the pullout we were suffering less casualties and were inflicting more casualties on the enemy. I was responding to a specific lie. Anyway, no use responding to you anymore. You're an idiot who lacks basic reading comprehension skills and I'm not in the mood to help you keep up with the discussion.
1/9/07 4:20 PM
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They only people who abandoned the troops are the neo-cons since the start of this corrupt war. The troops had to beg for proper armor and equipment. The troops have been out-numbered for years now, and suddenly it's the dems fault.
1/9/07 4:23 PM
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It's it amazing that CZ deflects the issue by saying "The Military needs troops and it's the anti-jihad blogger's fault that it's depleted!". Meanwhile, our troops are in Iraq needing reinforcement and the new democrat congress is posed not to send it. Typical liberal. What a shameless dumbass.
1/9/07 4:25 PM
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David Lea, you sound like a 5th grader trying to get into a discussion with the teachers about current events.
1/9/07 4:26 PM
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My reading comprehension is fine. Your twisting of stats (which are doubtfull to begin with) to prove your point in Iraq is laughable. You're saying that the draft and increasing soldiers in Vietnam was statistically a success YET you still lost the war. You now would like us to believe that increasing soldiers in Iraq would have the same outcome "statistically" as Vietnam, however this time the US would WIN! The true sign of stupidity is to continue doing the same mistakes over and over again. "Anyway, no use responding to you anymore. You're an idiot who lacks basic reading comprehension skills and I'm not in the mood to help you keep up with the discussion." You must have been looking in a mirror.
1/9/07 4:27 PM
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Your twisting of stats (which are doubtfull to begin with) http://members.aol.com/forcountry/kiamonth.htm to prove your point in Iraq is laughable Here's another fine example of your retarded reading comprehension. I exposed a lie being passed by a scumbag. That is all. I know you really hate the war, Bush and any soldier that chose to fight in this war, but my God, stop pretending to be anything other than a mildly retarded adult.
1/9/07 4:29 PM
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"David Lea, you sound like a 5th grader trying to get into a discussion with the teachers about current events." Good one Jack. You are indeed a scholar and a man among men. One day I hope to learn from your greatness.
1/9/07 4:29 PM
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Did I say that? Where's the quote? Oh please! It's the entire reasoning for a statement such as this:
The real scumbags in all this are the tough talking young men of military age who would rather fight Islamofacsim on their blogs rather than on the battlefield.
But there's a time for cheerleading and a time to get in the game. LOL! Following up the line, "Where did I say that," with this statement is VERY funny. Does it not make sense to say: Hey, for the guys who support this war, we need help. Enlist today! No, it does not make sense. If there is sacrifice required, it should be incumbent upon all of us regardless of our support for this war. The day our nation defines its participation in an endeavour through whomever supports it is the day we are torn apart. Why does that make you so mad? Did I say I was mad? Where's the quote? It is mindless drivel. Why do you use it?
1/9/07 4:34 PM
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No, it does not make sense. If there is sacrifice required, it should be incumbent upon all of us regardless of our support for this war. The day our nation defines its participation in an endeavour through whomever supports it is the day we are torn apart. Beautiful. Thank you, Information. It is so refreshing to hear in contrast to Crazy Zimmerman's weak attempt to twist his position into a "pro-troops" position. When somebody actually supports the troops and loves America, you can hear it in their words.
1/9/07 4:40 PM
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its not unamerican to not want your countrymen to die over nothing Completely Irrelevant. When you DENY the troops reinforcements while they are battling their bloodiest and most difficult fights on the battlefield AS WE SPEAK, you are effectively abandoning the troops. Stop trying to somehow make this abandonment of our troops on the battlefield "patriotic". Get this through your head you sack of shit: Abandoning the troops is not patriotic and it is not American!!!!! How pathetic & sickening.
1/9/07 4:47 PM
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Jack, http://members.aol.com/forcountry/kiamonth.htm Nice try... No where in those stats does it say that military casualties decreased starting in 1969 due to an increase in soldiers in the region. In fact here's a stat that directly owns your little argument. "20 Apr 70 - President Nixon announces during a TV address, the withdrawal of ANOTHER 150,000 troops over the next 12 months. This reduction would lower US troop strength to 284,000." ** saunters back into grade 5 class with middle finger in the air. **
1/9/07 4:55 PM
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Seemore Butts, Stop using logic. It doesn't bode well for fear-mongerers...
1/9/07 5:03 PM
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FACT: Dems not making moves to stop troop support. Dems will always support current troops, but if the WPE wants to escalate US involvement, he must now JUSTIFY it. Unlike the privious Repugs that were in control, the Dems demand accountability. No more blank checks! Kennedy Introduces Bill Requiring Congressional Approval For Iraq Escalation Today, Sen. Ted Kennedy will introduce the first legislation demanding accountability for President Bush's Iraq policy. Kennedy's bill will require the president to gain new congressional authority before escalating the war in Iraq. Below, a summary of the bill from Kennedy's office: - The legislation requires the Congress to vote before the President escalates troop levels in Iraq. - The legislation claims the people's right to a full voice in the President's plan to send more troops into the Iraq civil war. It says that no funds can be spent to send additional troops to Iraq unless Congress approves the President's proposed escalation of American forces. - The Iraq War Resolution of 2002 authorized a war against the regime of Saddam Hussein because he was believed to have weapons of mass destruction and an operational relationship with Al Qaeda, and was in defiance of U.N. Security Council Resolutions. - The mission of our armed forces today in Iraq no longer bears any resemblance to the mission authorized by Congress. - Iraq has descended into civil war and sectarian violence continues to escalate. President Bush should not be permitted to increase the number of United States troops in harm's way in the civil war WITHOUT a specific new authorization from Congress.
1/9/07 5:15 PM
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Dems not making moves to stop troop support. Great, then they won't hesitate sending them reinforcements while they're on the battlefield. Kennedy Introduces Bill Requiring Congressional Approval For Iraq Escalation Yep, typical of him. Instead of sending reinforcements now, Kennedy wants to subject it to and get it hung up in partisan politics. Fuck Ted Kennedy. He's going to leave our troops to die just like he did Mary Jo Kopechne when he drove her off of a bridge and ABANDONDED her.
1/9/07 5:19 PM
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I gotta tell you, my favorite part of about this particular topic is how the lefties show their true and unfortunate colors where it comes to things of utmost seriousness. One thing in life I know for sure is, no matter how you felt about the war going into it, we MUST win it no matter what. That's not even debatable. Yet the dems here are always carping, "The war is a mess...we can't win...we need to quit now...a surge won't work...we need to withdrawl, we need to give up this sensless war." Pathetic. Very sad and unfortunate.
1/9/07 5:21 PM
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"Yet the dems here are always carping, "The war is a mess...we can't win...we need to quit now...a surge won't work...we need to withdrawl, we need to give up this sensless war." Moke, in all fairness, there are many republicans and lots of military experts who say that adding more troops will not achieve anything. Do you really believe that only dems are saying that?
1/9/07 5:24 PM
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Yet the dems here are always carping, "The war is a mess...we can't win...we need to quit now...a surge won't work...we need to withdrawl, we need to give up this sensless war." Yep, they're riddled all over this thread. Watch them scramble to justify it, shamelessly.
1/9/07 5:41 PM
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Sen. Gordon Smith (REPUBLICAN-OR) Calls Kennedy's Iraq Escalation Bill "A Good Idea!" Today, Sen. Gordon Smith (REPUBLICAN-OR) said Sen. Ted Kennedy's (D-MA) new legislation requiring the president to gain congressional authority before escalating the Iraq war is "a good idea!" "The more the Congress can be involved in the decision making, the better," Smith told CNN. Smith also called Bush's Iraq policy "criminal," a "dereliction," and "deeply immoral." Transcript: BASH: But the President can no longer rely on a GOP firewall of support. Republican Senator Gordon Smith, recently soured on the war, tells CNN he thinks Kennedy's idea for a new congressional authorization is a good one. SMITH: But he more the Congress can be involved in the decision making, the better -- and that is what the American people are asking for; they are going to hold us accountable then let's have the tools of accountability so we can be held responsible. source: http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/01/gop-senator-calls-kennedys-iraq-vote.html
1/9/07 5:52 PM
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Let me get your point straight: it's a minority of Republicans Politicians siding with a Majority of Democrat Politicians?
1/9/07 6:32 PM
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It's nice to see jack carter ignore posts that prove him wrong. david lea owned jack carter!

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