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1/10/07 6:27 PM
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FutureProdigy
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We don't offer much at my school in the area of martial arts and the one class I could take is aikido at our local gym for 45$. I however do not know much about the system at all. Please enlighten me a bit without telling me to go look it up on the web. I want to jist of it from REAL practioners.
1/11/07 10:43 AM
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I was a REAL practitioner. It's basically a cooperative form of martial arts that focusses on wrist locks and using an attacker's energy against them. The techniques were derived mainly from Aiki Jiu Jitsu. It's fun in a "I want to be a Jedi" kind of way. As for the usefullness, it depends on your job. If you are a compliance-type authority figure (cop, bouncer, etc) then it may come in handy. In an actual all out brawl... not so much. The attacks you defend against are largely unrealistic and the cooperative nature of training stops you from ever working with live, full resistance. Lot's of bowing and scraping is involved as are other rituals.
1/13/07 4:13 PM
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If it's one of the rare aikido schools that does actual randori against/with a non-cooperating partner, then it should be fine. But if no randori, then don't bother. Jimmy O'Curry
1/26/07 1:13 AM
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You might want to go read some on the forums at aikidojournal.com G'day ;]
5/11/07 11:59 AM
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Supposedly, some of the Tomiki guys that got their judo BB first are pretty effective at sparring. That said, we had a coupla aikido BBs at our BJJ school and they never managed to get me in a wristlock when sparring though they tried... and their throws were terrible.
7/22/07 5:42 PM
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I trained Aikido for a little while and I found a lot of the moves to be elaborate, too time-consuming to learn and not very practical, IMO. The guy I trained with was an Aikido black belt. Very cool guy but was more apt to shoot someone with a 45 rather than actually fight so it didn't give me much insight as to how much confidence he had in his style.
7/22/07 7:58 PM
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the useful skill i see there is how to fall.
8/11/07 10:58 PM
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I just posted this on another thread but it seems to fit your question as well, so I'm just going to c&p: "I trained for a few years. Like any other TMA, it depends on the teacher, IMO. My teacher had studied other TMAs before aikido and incorporated them in our studies as well as drawing from my wrestling/grappling experience. Like any really good teacher, he learned as much from everyone else as he taught and always sought to improve his own style. I always (and still) considered myself a novice in aikido, but he took me to other schools and to seminars where the "recreational" black belts' technique was just hideous. Even I could pick out the blatant flaws. oops, I'm rambling Back to the point, aikido can be an effective art if trained right. Finding a quality instructor is not easy though."
8/12/07 11:30 AM
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As I've posted before - Ueshiba mastered wrestling, karate, kendo, and did lots of sumo before developing aikido. imo, aikido is what you do after you've done pancrase for a few years and are getting too old to go at it hardcore any longer (like I am!).
8/13/07 12:43 AM
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Ueshiba never did sumo or karate or wrestling............it was jiujitsu where he built his art from
8/13/07 12:43 AM
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Ueshiba never did sumo or karate or wrestling............it was jiujitsu where he built his art from
8/13/07 9:19 AM
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Then wiki is wrong about the sumo thing....
8/14/07 11:53 AM
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Ueshiba did Sumo. He did NOT do Karate. "Wrestling" is probably meant in the generic sense as grappling, not western wrestling. He supposedly would wrestle logs or something like that.
8/14/07 12:27 PM
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At some point he did kenjutsu though. Anyway, he didn't start out doing what we know as aikido today.
8/16/07 1:42 PM
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there might be some hot chics there, so it wouldn't be a waste of time.
8/20/07 10:46 AM
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More likely a bunch of overweight passive aggressive hippy chicks. If you want hot chicks, go to cardio kickboxing.
8/23/07 10:54 AM
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FlashGordon2002 = correctamundo!!!

from what little I know:

cardio kickbox = hot chicks

aikido = hippy chicks with chips on their shoulders

8/23/07 6:21 PM
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We have Boston Center for Adult Education here. You can take courses from basic electrical work for your home, to cooking, to sculpting. I take at least 2 classes a year. Regardless of what it is, it usually at the very least a 5:1 girl:guy ratio, with most girls being young professions in the 25-35 range. I'm married, but I can't help thinking it is an undiscovered treasure trove. More so than Aikido likely...
8/24/07 8:50 AM
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And, yet, another thread becomes about buttsex and where to get it... god I love the OG (and it's feeble spin-off-grounds) :)
8/26/07 9:56 AM
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This thread is about Aikido and by default also about butt sex.
1/4/08 3:36 AM
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2 werds..Steven Seagal
1/4/08 9:08 AM
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If you live in Alabama, try the aikido they do at the university there. It is supposed to be 'realistic' but good luck finding a teacher of that anywheres else. I had high hopes for Tomiki style until I really looked into it. The sport part of it actually ruins the art! Too many rules to prevent injury - which is what fighting is all about (injure them before they kill you). You'd think pre-WWII judo + aikijutsu would be awesome, but it has become just a farce.
1/4/08 11:03 AM
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It seems like the principles are really good. The application is horrible
1/5/08 12:48 AM
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werd I knew some KB and TKD (classic) guys that added a bunch of aikijutsu and some ground fighting to their arsenals and were okay. But, my Pancrase still whooped on them handily. Their problem was that they never found a way to practice all out like BJJ or Pancrase guys can so realism in sparring is lost making their styles more theory than reality. Still, hasn't ANYONE put small joint manipulation/wrist locks to good use in MMA fighting? I know a Master that did but only because he was a GREAT technician.
1/5/08 12:01 PM
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i guess is would be good for policemen where wrist locks and the such could be usefull

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