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2/9/07 3:28 PM
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I saw a poll like this on the UG (for fighters not philosophers), and I thought - Hey, thats a good idea. Everybody say who and why. My pick is Peter Abelard. Truly one of the great philosophers. Todays philosophy in my opinion would be radically different than it is today without his brilliant synthesis of Aristotelian rationalism into the discussion of Church Doctrine. Yet, he and other scholostics are only subject to the universal condemnation based on the mockery of their attempts at counting the "angels on the head of a pin"
2/9/07 4:15 PM
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2/9/07 4:23 PM
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I am :) I still have to get on with my Phd though first :P "based on the mockery of their attempts at counting hte "angel on the head of a pin"" an infinity of them can dance there. But, since you mentioned Aristotle, ACTUALLY none :) oh and OG
2/9/07 4:25 PM
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on a more serious note though Spinoza
2/9/07 4:29 PM
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Schopenhauer
2/9/07 4:30 PM
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Icculus. You should definitley read Icculus.
2/9/07 4:32 PM
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"Schopenhauer" lol, too feminist
2/9/07 5:03 PM
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Plato.
2/10/07 3:32 AM
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C.S. Lewis for sure
2/10/07 7:08 AM
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"C.S. Lewis" ^ahhh the wacko; cool guy though. Well, does the giant meatball that devours planets and dumps out stars exist?:) Just by virtue of it being a possible object? He's done some good work for Modal Logics but his metaphysics (ontology in particular) is highly controversial to say the least.
2/10/07 3:07 PM
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DUUUUUUDES!!! Giorgos: when you mention the wacko who deals with possible worlds you mean David Kellogg Lewis who is one of the most influential and respected contemporary philosophers besides Kripke. He is no way underrated. Weldon: C.S.Lewis was a writer not a philosopher. You either mean C. I. Lewis as the american pragmatist Clarence Irving Lewis or you must believe that the writer was a good philosopher (which I doubt)... Its hard to see how Plato is underrated. He is the centerpiece of western philosophy IMO. Schopenhauer and Spinoza are good candidates. Can?t remember when I last saw some contemporary philosopher quote or mention Schopenhauer although his conativism is pretty similar to being a darwinian countepart in metaphysics. I.
2/10/07 7:11 PM
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^true, my bad I thought he was talking about David Lewis; didn't pay that much attention to the "C.S" part. But I wouldn't rank him with Kripke now come on :) I mean he does present Aristotelian actuallists with some real problems and his quantifying on possible worlds is indeed an amazing logical feat, but I just cannot take his metaphysics so seriously as a result...Perhaps I am just dragging along with me my Kripkean professors' bias against him :P and so true about Plato...
2/11/07 4:35 AM
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Indrek R.
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Hey! Lewis has besides all the logical/possible world work also contributed to the debate on free will, to the debate on valuing and to the debate on personal identity. The network analysis programs of Jackson and Pettit in phil. of mind and metaethics are founded on his Ramsey-sentences approach too. And ... counterfactuals. I´d say that their impact has been equal. Kripke has two big ideas he will be remembered by (causal theory of refernce and a posteriori necessity). Lewis has also some famous ideas (counterfactuals, possible worlds) but has also contributed to a multitude of debates on other topics. Greets, I.
2/11/07 6:34 PM
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^ ta panta ri
2/11/07 11:12 PM
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Parmenides.
2/12/07 10:41 AM
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Come on - how about one serious response: Who AND Why - defend your position please. And Plato ? ... Plato -- Augustine -- Inquisition But then again... Aristotle -- Robespierre -- bin Laden
2/14/07 1:59 AM
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Mh?
2/14/07 11:39 PM
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Dietrich von Hildebrand Because he was a true philosopher, a great student of Edmund Husserl, and embodied the essence of phenomenology by going "back to things themselves."
2/15/07 8:28 AM
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rkjmd can you tell me briefly why you believe that phenonemology is not dead. Or at least why Hildebrand would otherwise be relevant today. hm ? - just a bit of fun
2/15/07 3:33 PM
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Who´s your favourite philosopher? GWBush: "Jesus" And he was not joking. Sadly.
2/15/07 5:28 PM
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Check out What is Philosophy? or Ethics, at least the first four chapters of each. Unfortunately, all philosophy is, in some sense, dead today. So, phenomenology is no longer fashionable. But where are you going to go? I still like the early Husserl. What if you are unconvinced by Kant's Critique of Pure Reason? What if you find that his four antinomies are not antinomies at all? What if you think you can resolve each one, one way or the other? Then you're where the early students of Husserl found themselves. And I would say that the most underrated of those guys is von Hildebrand. Enough of his stuff was written or is available in English. Hope that answers your question.
2/16/07 3:18 AM
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That is one serious response.
2/16/07 4:31 AM
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"Unfortunately, all philosophy is, in some sense, dead today." What do you mean with that?

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