Art Vandelay's Pro Wrestling Ground 16 70's/80's wrestlers invited to UFC tournament.

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Say its 1985.

Someone is holding a 16-man UFC II style one night NHB tournament.

Sixteen pro wrestlers from the 70's/early 80's will be invited to fight for $2,000,000 grand prize. Who is invited. Random draw. Who are the favorites to win?

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10/20/07
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Harley?

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10/20/07
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85 would be too late though

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Festus -

85 would be too late though

Gotta wonder what Andre had left in 85, guess his health was getting bad by then.

 

I would love to have seen 1975 Andre fight NHB.

 

I can't imagine what 1970-1975 Andre would have looked like with a few years of wrestling, BJJ, and thai boxing training under his belt.

Imagine if Andre grew up in America and was into folk, freestyle and greco.

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Here is 68 Andre.

 

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In 85 America had lots of wrestlers who were good real wrestlers and had some tough and athletic former football players as well. Don't think America had many legit catch guys at the time though in pro wrestling.

Now Japan, I'm no expert on the subject but I'm sure lots of the Japanese wrestlers around 85 had legit catch skills and judo skills while others had freestye and greco backgrounds as well.

I'd be interested in knowing who some of more knowledgable guys on this board would consider worth an invitation to a 85 tournament.

I'm sure Dr. Death gets a spot.

Funaki and Suzuki would have been to young.

I'm sure Fujiwara would get a spot.

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11/11/11
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Inoki

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Bad News Brown/Allen!

1976 Olympics Heavyweight Judo Bronze Medal. 

He might have been too old, he was born in 1943. 

Billy Robinson was around then, but he was born in 1938.

Dr. Death was young back then. 

 

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Bad News Brown... or Allen at the time. He'd be 42 in 1985 though (same age as Inoki, FWIW).

Piper. He had already spent time training with Lebell by the 80s (which I'm assuming was heavily done when he was in NWA Hollywood in the mid-70s).

I think the Brisco's both had an amateur wrestling background, with Jack winning a NCAA title. Jack would have been 44 and Jerry 39 in 85.

Jumbo Tsuruta would have been 34 in 1985, and he had a Greco-Roman background, was a amateur Japanese national champ, and Olympian.

John Tenta. He was a Canadian Jr. Wrestling champion, Espoir (20 and under) world freestyle champ in 1983, and wrestled for LSU before they dropped their team. He also had a sumo background. I don't think he had started pro wrestling until like 1987.
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Don't want to invite Susuki, Funaki, Andre, or Robinson due to age.

Bob Backlund and Iron Sheik had wrestling backgrounds as well. Can't forget sumo trained Haku.

Four more spots open. I'm sure there are some tough Japanese judo or catch guys that could be invited. This would have been so much better than UFC II.

Ok so so far we can invite:

1. Steve WIlliams

2. Fujiwara

3. Inoki

4. Bad News Brown

5. Piper

6. Jack Brisco

7. Jerry Brisco

8 Jumbo Tsurata

9. John Tenta

10. Backlund

11. Iron Shiek

12. Haku

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^This is legit awesome

 

I think when all the names are gathered this needs to be turned into brackets.

 

Other possibility is genichiro tenryu. He was a sumo

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I might do this in fire pro at the very least

 

Mma rules

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I don't know time frames that well, but how about an Ivan Putski or Ken Patera?

Think that guy that's stupidly strong / stronger than the rest as a sort of "X-factor".
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Bad News was my first thought as well.

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I say let's get a full list of participants and form brackets. Then let's make virtual bets for bragging rights. I can then simulate this shit on fire pro wrestling and post results. nhb tournament format.

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1/14/12
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Just to throw a few random names in.

Dynamite Kid trained in submission style grappling and boxing maybe too small.

Stan Hanson just a short sighted tough bastard.

Young Fit Finlay was around and regularly beating the shit out of rugby players for laugh's according to Regal.

The Barbarian was another bad dude along with Haku.

Greg Valentine was another guy who just loved a fight.

Lastly how about you include Bam Bam Bigelow.

I'm sure I could think of more.

 

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Good call on Fit Finlay.
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TheBearStare - 

I say let's get a full list of participants and form brackets. Then let's make virtual bets for bragging rights. I can then simulate this shit on fire pro wrestling and post results. nhb tournament format.


Sounds awesome.
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Gerald Brisco was a good call too.  Wrestlers still talk about how badass he is

 

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Harley Race is getting added, he was only 42 and added Ken Patera who Wiggy suggested and Finley for BigTed. Too bad Gene Lebell, Lou Thesz, and Danny Hodge were in their 50's in 85.

If everyone thinks someone on my list sucks then tell TheBearStare and he will remove him from the list and put in someone he wants since he is gonna run a simulation. Pretty cool you can do that, I don't know anything about Fire.

1. Steve Williams

2. Fujiwara

3. Inoki

4. Bad News Brown

5. Piper

6. Jack Brisco

7. Jerry Brisco

8 Jumbo Tsurata

9. John Tenta

10. Backlund

11. Iron Shiek

12. Haku

13. Harley Race

14. Fit Finley

15. The Barbarian

16. Ken Patera
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6'5 450 lb Greco bronze medalist Chris Taylor would have been a handful but he passed away at 29, well before 1985.
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Everybody is going to mention Haku but he also trained with The Barbarian.
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7/13/09
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How the fuck did not one of you experts say Brad Rheingans or BOB Roop yet?!

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2/24/19
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Gotta have Kurt Angle in there. If it had been a bit farther back ... Danny Hodge wins it all. Stu Hart could have been in there. In the old days ... Hooker Heath, Bob Roop, Sailor Art Thomas, Brad Rheingans, Iron Mike DiBiase even Verne Gagne. I am going to throw out a wildcard for you ... Adrian Street - guys like Fit Findlay, Dave Taylor, Billy Robinson, Steven Regal who also have that Wigan background all day Adrian was the toughest of them all. 

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10/20/07
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Kurt would have been too young, no?