UnderGround Forums Ali: 0.0 % chance Conor gets rematch, GSP next

5 days ago
9/7/19
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Looks like Conor's soul will remain chained up in Khabib's bear yard forever.

 

Oh and also Tony is getting fucked, but I think GSP is the tougher matchup and more meaningful

 

https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/11/khabib-nurmagomedov-conor-mcgregor-rematch-georges-st-pierre-gsp-ufc/

 

 

5 days ago
9/7/19
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He's making it look like Khabib is ducking Tony. "Tony never been world champion"

5 days ago
9/7/19
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He's making it look like Khabib is ducking Tony. "Tony never been world champion"

GSP is better than Tony, the GOAT, tougher matchup sytlistically, better payday, more distinction if Khabib wins

 

 

5 days ago
1/23/06
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He's making it look like Khabib is ducking Tony. "Tony never been world champion"

GSP is better than Tony, the GOAT, tougher matchup sytlistically, better payday, more distinction if Khabib wins

 

 


Defend or vacate.
5 days ago
9/7/19
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Khabib is defending, against the GOAT for GOAT status.

 

Tony just doesn't bring eyes to the sport like Georges.

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Khabib is defending, against the GOAT for GOAT status.

 

Tony just doesn't bring eyes to the sport like Georges.


Be careful what you wish for. GSP will likely destroy Khabib standing and he's not going to be able to muscle St-Pierre around.

There's also a 0.0 percent chance that GSP will give Khabib a rematch if he beats him ;)

UFC would much rather have Tony Ferguson fight Khabib, because Tony will defend the title.

GSP vacated the lineal Welterweight and MIddleweight titles already.

5 days ago
1/28/19
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Can GSP make 155?

5 days ago
7/10/12
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He’s getting on a bit and hasn’t been very active so Khabib may have a chance against GSP

Prime vs prime? GSP could impregnate Khabib if he wanted to 

 

5 days ago
2/25/12
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At this point its undeniable that Khabib wants no part of Ferguson

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8/19/13
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Someone's scared of the boogeyman

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7/19/13
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I can understand the “fuck Conor” sentiment, because let’s face it the guy is washed up. Khabib CANNOT however DUCK Tony. Khabib claimed before the fight with Porier that Tony was next because he deserved it. He claimed he wanted to rule his division and build his legacy defending the belt. He claimed Tony Ferguson was the only guy in the division that deserved it. Now he’s trying to renege on his commitments, and fight a pointless fight against a retired fighter who has stated he has no intent of defending if he were to win. Khabib seems scared to fight his nemesis.. that’s what this is. He’s afraid of Tony, and he’d rather risk fighting GSP than losing to his greatest threat. Tony Ferguson is the true king of 155lb. Porier’s choke put the fear of God into Khabib, as in that moment he realized it could all be over JUST LIKE THAT! So now he’s talking as if fighting Tony is not important.. but deep down he knows that the Boogey Man, El Cucuy, or whatever the monster beneath the bed is in your language, is out to get him and he’s afraid. Khabib has been a great champ so far. This right here though is a sign of cowardice, and not a good sign of his confidence going into what will be his toughest challenge ever in his career. The fans don’t want to see you fight GSP right now. Save that for after you clear your division. Fight GSP after, I mean IF, you can beat the True King of the division. Ducking Tony will be an unforgivable sin committed towards the fans of this sport. Khabib you’re better than that. Believe in yourself. Don’t start ducking now.  The fact his handler is the guy ducking speaks volumes. He doesn’t believe in his fighter against Tony Ferguson. First time they’ve shown hesitance towards an opponent... not a good look!!! 

5 days ago
9/2/10
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Tony should be getting the shot but ill enjoy watching GSP completely crush Khabib.

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7/19/13
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The stress was evident all over Khabib when he left the cage after the Porier fight. He was asked about Tony Ferguson, and he claimed right away he needed a break to go eat some burgers. After winning against Porier, the reality hit him of who was next... the stress overcame him immediately. He looked sick when they uttered Tony’s name. Khabib wants no parts of Tony Ferguson.. Duck Duck Khabib! 

5 days ago
9/7/19
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How does one duck Tony to face a way better fighter?

 

Tony actually ducked Holloway and a shot to fight Khabib in September because he thought he'd get a red panty night.

 

Bottom line is these fighters want legacy, money and clout and GSP offers a much bigger upside for Khabib than Tony, who is unknown.

 

Same way Tony wanted McGregor before he wanted Khabib when he was asked to make a choice between the two. Or how he turned down the Holloway fight when Khabib was out for champ shit only.

 

All fighters are opportunists.

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How does one duck Tony to face a way better fighter?

 

Tony actually ducked Holloway and a shot to fight Khabib in September because he thought he'd get a red panty night.

 

Bottom line is these fighters want legacy, money and clout and GSP offers a much bigger upside for Khabib than Tony, who is unknown.

 

Same way Tony wanted McGregor before he wanted Khabib when he was asked to make a choice between the two. Or how he turned down the Holloway fight when Khabib was out for champ shit only.

 

All fighters are opportunists.

GSP isn’t the “better” fighter. He’s a retired fighter who struggled against Bisping in his last fight. A fight that saw him get busted up and battered, while looking like a shell of his former self. He wanted no parts of defending that belt because the cream puff he beat to get it was nothing compared to the guys coming to take it. Yoel and Robert would have destroyed GSP. Time waits for no one.. you sit out and the game passes you by. You guys are living in the glory days of GSP, when reality is he’s a shell of his former self. No one wants to see a turtle pop its head out every 4 years for a pointless matchup. If he fought Khabib he’d only do it because fighting the wrestler is “safe” compared to defending against the Barbarians that come after. Tired of pointless matches. GSP is a pointless match that takes the division nowhere. A dead end, lord forbid he wins and destroys another division’s belt lineage. Khabib should drop the belt and fight GSP at 170lb if fighting up a class is his thing.. 

5 days ago
2/12/13
Posts: 392

Lol at the people saying that he is fucking Tony Ferguson.  Khabib has literally signed up to fight him about 3-4 times?

GSP is a tougher fight, bigger payday and bigger trophy to add to the resume, why not take the GSP fight if it is on the table? Especially if the guy is so hard to get out of retirement.

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7/19/13
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Lol at the people saying that he is fucking Tony Ferguson.  Khabib has literally signed up to fight him about 3-4 times?

GSP is a tougher fight, bigger payday and bigger trophy to add to the resume, why not take the GSP fight if it is on the table? Especially if the guy is so hard to get out of retirement.

Not the tougher fight at all. GSP doesn’t cause the damage Ferguson does. GSP was always a point fighter, winning via wrestle fuck to a decision. Great fighter, but far from the tougher fighter. As soon as USADA popped up, GSP started talking about alien abductions. Foh if you don’t see the correlation. His last performance against Bisping was a life and death struggle for him against one of the lightest hands in the sport. He was leaking bad! Dehydrated and drained GSP would do worse. 

5 days ago
9/7/19
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How does one duck Tony to face a way better fighter?

 

Tony actually ducked Holloway and a shot to fight Khabib in September because he thought he'd get a red panty night.

 

Bottom line is these fighters want legacy, money and clout and GSP offers a much bigger upside for Khabib than Tony, who is unknown.

 

Same way Tony wanted McGregor before he wanted Khabib when he was asked to make a choice between the two. Or how he turned down the Holloway fight when Khabib was out for champ shit only.

 

All fighters are opportunists.

GSP isn’t the “better” fighter. He’s a retired fighter who struggled against Bisping in his last fight. A fight that saw him get busted up and battered, while looking like a shell of his former self. He wanted no parts of defending that belt because the cream puff he beat to get it was nothing compared to the guys coming to take it. Yoel and Robert would have destroyed GSP. Time waits for no one.. you sit out and the game passes you by. You guys are living in the glory days of GSP, when reality is he’s a shell of his former self. No one wants to see a turtle pop its head out every 4 years for a pointless matchup. If he fought Khabib he’d only do it because fighting the wrestler is “safe” compared to defending against the Barbarians that come after. Tired of pointless matches. GSP is a pointless match that takes the division nowhere. A dead end, lord forbid he wins and destroys another division’s belt lineage. Khabib should drop the belt and fight GSP at 170lb if fighting up a class is his thing.. 

Bisping is a middleweight dude, and GSP knocked him out. What more do you want from him?

 

He's a much better fighter than Tony and much harder matchup for Khabib because of his TDD.

 

Tony would just get ragdolled like everyone else against Khabib or GSP.

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How does one duck Tony to face a way better fighter?

 

Tony actually ducked Holloway and a shot to fight Khabib in September because he thought he'd get a red panty night.

 

Bottom line is these fighters want legacy, money and clout and GSP offers a much bigger upside for Khabib than Tony, who is unknown.

 

Same way Tony wanted McGregor before he wanted Khabib when he was asked to make a choice between the two. Or how he turned down the Holloway fight when Khabib was out for champ shit only.

 

All fighters are opportunists.

GSP isn’t the “better” fighter. He’s a retired fighter who struggled against Bisping in his last fight. A fight that saw him get busted up and battered, while looking like a shell of his former self. He wanted no parts of defending that belt because the cream puff he beat to get it was nothing compared to the guys coming to take it. Yoel and Robert would have destroyed GSP. Time waits for no one.. you sit out and the game passes you by. You guys are living in the glory days of GSP, when reality is he’s a shell of his former self. No one wants to see a turtle pop its head out every 4 years for a pointless matchup. If he fought Khabib he’d only do it because fighting the wrestler is “safe” compared to defending against the Barbarians that come after. Tired of pointless matches. GSP is a pointless match that takes the division nowhere. A dead end, lord forbid he wins and destroys another division’s belt lineage. Khabib should drop the belt and fight GSP at 170lb if fighting up a class is his thing.. 

Bisping is a middleweight dude, and GSP knocked him out. What more do you want from him?

 

He's a much better fighter than Tony and much harder matchup for Khabib because of his TDD.

 

Tony would just get ragdolled like everyone else against Khabib or GSP.

GSP won by submission. Your first mistake. Your second mistake is making assumptions. There’s a reason why they fight. Porier had him rocked bad with a few sloppy connects. That goes a different way, we have a different champion. Also that choke was CLOSE!  Tony is far more deserving than Porier, and Khabib entertained that fight. Now he’s ducking Tony. If the fight was easy he wouldn’t be avoiding the matchup. It’s not just Tony that is responsible for the pullouts in the past between them. Khabib is guilty too.. 

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9/7/19
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How does one duck Tony to face a way better fighter?

 

Tony actually ducked Holloway and a shot to fight Khabib in September because he thought he'd get a red panty night.

 

Bottom line is these fighters want legacy, money and clout and GSP offers a much bigger upside for Khabib than Tony, who is unknown.

 

Same way Tony wanted McGregor before he wanted Khabib when he was asked to make a choice between the two. Or how he turned down the Holloway fight when Khabib was out for champ shit only.

 

All fighters are opportunists.

GSP isn’t the “better” fighter. He’s a retired fighter who struggled against Bisping in his last fight. A fight that saw him get busted up and battered, while looking like a shell of his former self. He wanted no parts of defending that belt because the cream puff he beat to get it was nothing compared to the guys coming to take it. Yoel and Robert would have destroyed GSP. Time waits for no one.. you sit out and the game passes you by. You guys are living in the glory days of GSP, when reality is he’s a shell of his former self. No one wants to see a turtle pop its head out every 4 years for a pointless matchup. If he fought Khabib he’d only do it because fighting the wrestler is “safe” compared to defending against the Barbarians that come after. Tired of pointless matches. GSP is a pointless match that takes the division nowhere. A dead end, lord forbid he wins and destroys another division’s belt lineage. Khabib should drop the belt and fight GSP at 170lb if fighting up a class is his thing.. 

Bisping is a middleweight dude, and GSP knocked him out. What more do you want from him?

 

He's a much better fighter than Tony and much harder matchup for Khabib because of his TDD.

 

Tony would just get ragdolled like everyone else against Khabib or GSP.

GSP won by submission. Your first mistake. Your second mistake is making assumptions. There’s a reason why they fight. Porier had him rocked bad with a few sloppy connects. That goes a different way, we have a different champion. Also that choke was CLOSE!  Tony is far more deserving than Porier, and Khabib entertained that fight. Now he’s ducking Tony. If the fight was easy he wouldn’t be avoiding the matchup. It’s not just Tony that is responsible for the pullouts in the past between them. Khabib is guilty too.. 

Tony could have been sitting in Dustin's place had he not ducked Holloway when Khabib was out.

 

and lol @ that choke being close.

5 days ago
7/19/13
Posts: 25525

GSP is ducking the entire 170lb division. Ever since he campaigned for USADA and got his wish, he suddenly abandoned the sport. That’s suspect af! He hasn’t fought anyone at 170lb, and now he wants to shoot down to 155lb? Nobody wants to see that! I’d rather watch GSP vs Woodley or GSP vs Usman. Shit I’d rather watch GSP vs Colby! There’s matchups that make more sense for GSP than to drain himself to fight a 155lb fighter. Kevin Gastelum would beat GSP. GSP is looking for easy fights that pose little risk to him. He knows Khabib would wrestle and not pound his skull in. He fought Bisping for the same reason. That’s weak af to cherry pick fights that seem less dangerous. GSP should come back for legacy fights in the 170lb division! 

 

GSP vs Masvidal/Nate would be fun. Stop wasting everyone’s time fighting in a division you don’t plan on defending.

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7/19/13
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How does one duck Tony to face a way better fighter?

 

Tony actually ducked Holloway and a shot to fight Khabib in September because he thought he'd get a red panty night.

 

Bottom line is these fighters want legacy, money and clout and GSP offers a much bigger upside for Khabib than Tony, who is unknown.

 

Same way Tony wanted McGregor before he wanted Khabib when he was asked to make a choice between the two. Or how he turned down the Holloway fight when Khabib was out for champ shit only.

 

All fighters are opportunists.

GSP isn’t the “better” fighter. He’s a retired fighter who struggled against Bisping in his last fight. A fight that saw him get busted up and battered, while looking like a shell of his former self. He wanted no parts of defending that belt because the cream puff he beat to get it was nothing compared to the guys coming to take it. Yoel and Robert would have destroyed GSP. Time waits for no one.. you sit out and the game passes you by. You guys are living in the glory days of GSP, when reality is he’s a shell of his former self. No one wants to see a turtle pop its head out every 4 years for a pointless matchup. If he fought Khabib he’d only do it because fighting the wrestler is “safe” compared to defending against the Barbarians that come after. Tired of pointless matches. GSP is a pointless match that takes the division nowhere. A dead end, lord forbid he wins and destroys another division’s belt lineage. Khabib should drop the belt and fight GSP at 170lb if fighting up a class is his thing.. 

Bisping is a middleweight dude, and GSP knocked him out. What more do you want from him?

 

He's a much better fighter than Tony and much harder matchup for Khabib because of his TDD.

 

Tony would just get ragdolled like everyone else against Khabib or GSP.

GSP won by submission. Your first mistake. Your second mistake is making assumptions. There’s a reason why they fight. Porier had him rocked bad with a few sloppy connects. That goes a different way, we have a different champion. Also that choke was CLOSE!  Tony is far more deserving than Porier, and Khabib entertained that fight. Now he’s ducking Tony. If the fight was easy he wouldn’t be avoiding the matchup. It’s not just Tony that is responsible for the pullouts in the past between them. Khabib is guilty too.. 

Tony could have been sitting in Dustin's place had he not ducked Holloway when Khabib was out.

 

and lol @ that choke being close.

Khabib himself said it was close..you’re starting to make a fool of yourself bro. Tony didn’t need to keep playing the “one more match” game UFC had him on. He had done far more than required to earn his shot. Fuck pushing the goal line further and further. He played it right.. he’d already been fucked out of a few promises. Why would he take a pointless matchup with a guy who wasn’t even a contender in his division? Holloway is a 145lb. That’s a pointless fight. Porier needed “one more” to justify his shot. Tony has been the #1 guy for a long time now. Fuck UFC’s never ending goal post adjustments.. 

5 days ago
1/1/01
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In the past Khabib has said he wants Tony next then GSP.

If the UFC wants to let GSP come in and get the third weight class title fight and then walk away (which Dana says they don't) then I think the best way for UFC to do it is this... let Khabib vs Tony finally happen.

Even if Tony wins... GSP can come in and try to win the third title from the guy who is 13-0 and just beat Khabib.

This way the UFC gets Khabib vs Tony and winner vs GSP.

If the UFC does Khabib vs GSP right now... if GSP wins then the Tony fight is ruined and GSP walks away.

UFC only gets big fight out of the deal if they do GSP vs Khabib right now, they get two giant fights if they hold GSP back for the winner.