David Jacobs' BJJGround Did Kaynan test positive

8/14/19 1:32 AM
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Bjj steroids is back at their drama.   They are reporting this.  Any word if it's true 

8/14/19 8:35 AM
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If he did pass his drug test, he could shut everyone up pretty easily by posting his results online. I don't think the black belt champs owe it to anyone to preemptively post their negative USADA tests, but this would be a good opportunity to prove his innocence. My guess is that he's in the process of filing an appeal. 

8/14/19 9:02 AM
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juanderlei -

If he did pass his drug test, he could shut everyone up pretty easily by posting his results online. I don't think the black belt champs owe it to anyone to preemptively post their negative USADA tests, but this would be a good opportunity to prove his innocence. My guess is that he's in the process of filing an appeal. 

That's starting to look like the case 

Edited: 8/14/19 5:41 PM
5/30/03
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They dry snitched on him and I'm not talking about the article

8/14/19 6:05 PM
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I'm just curious how Pena and Mayao of all people didn't get tested this year... hmmm... 

8/14/19 7:30 PM
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juanderlei - 

I'm just curious how Pena and Mayao of all people didn't get tested this year... hmmm... 


Its random, so they had the same chance as anyone else.

Also, is there a list of who got tested? How do people know who did and didn't get tested?
Edited: 8/14/19 8:43 PM
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8/15/19 2:39 AM
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Would anyone be actually surprised if his results show positive?

8/15/19 11:41 AM
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forumnewb - Would anyone be actually surprised if his results show positive?

Not from the perspective of thinking he wasn't using, but by now you'd think those atos guys have cycling down to an exact science.

8/15/19 12:19 PM
8/13/09
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This must be a mistake. The god-fearing athletes at Atos would never cheat

8/15/19 1:17 PM
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Not suprising. I know someone who went and visited Atos to train and he mentioned all the top guys using steroids openly. From the top down, including the Mendes brothers.

Edited: 8/15/19 1:26 PM
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juanderlei -

I'm just curious how Pena and Mayao of all people didn't get tested this year... hmmm... 

I thought all champs got tested? Lets face it, 99% of those high level guys are on something

8/15/19 1:43 PM
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John Dougherty -

This must be a mistake. The god-fearing athletes at Atos would never cheat

It was God that told them to take it to show his power through them!

8/15/19 3:00 PM
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The Closed Guard -
juanderlei -

I'm just curious how Pena and Mayao of all people didn't get tested this year... hmmm... 

I thought all champs got tested? Lets face it, 99% of those high level guys are on something

No, I train with several black belt world champions who have been tested some years they've won and not tested other years, so it seems totally random. However, once you've failed a test, I find it hard to believe that they would let you bypass testing a year or two later. 

As Pena was walking off the mat, people were yelling for him to get tested, but never happened. 

8/15/19 5:03 PM
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whatevermoo - 

Not suprising. I know someone who went and visited Atos to train and he mentioned all the top guys using steroids openly. From the top down, including the Mendes brothers.


Wtf? Openly? Are they poking needles in each others butts during open mat?
8/15/19 7:48 PM
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forumnewb - 
whatevermoo - 

Not suprising. I know someone who went and visited Atos to train and he mentioned all the top guys using steroids openly. From the top down, including the Mendes brothers.


Wtf? Openly? Are they poking needles in each others butts during open mat?

Yeah, that sounds like bullshit, especially the mendes brothers. Not because I think they're clean, but they don't even train regularly at the hq. Why would they drive to sd just to shoot steroids in front of visitors?
8/15/19 8:04 PM
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JCT -
forumnewb - 
whatevermoo - 

Not suprising. I know someone who went and visited Atos to train and he mentioned all the top guys using steroids openly. From the top down, including the Mendes brothers.


Wtf? Openly? Are they poking needles in each others butts during open mat?

Yeah, that sounds like bullshit, especially the mendes brothers. Not because I think they're clean, but they don't even train regularly at the hq. Why would they drive to sd just to shoot steroids in front of visitors?

Seems legit. 

8/16/19 5:00 AM
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8/18/19 11:29 PM
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chief123 -
JCT -
forumnewb - 
whatevermoo - 

Not suprising. I know someone who went and visited Atos to train and he mentioned all the top guys using steroids openly. From the top down, including the Mendes brothers.


Wtf? Openly? Are they poking needles in each others butts during open mat?

Yeah, that sounds like bullshit, especially the mendes brothers. Not because I think they're clean, but they don't even train regularly at the hq. Why would they drive to sd just to shoot steroids in front of visitors?

Seems legit. 

You don't have to believe it, but I believe the person who went there to train before pans or worlds probably 7-8 yrs ago and witnessed it all. 

8/20/19 7:42 PM
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i remember back early 90s people would walk across to TJ into any mexican pharmacy and walk back across to san diego with bags full of all you can swallow and inject steroids like nothing. dont know how easy it is these days in san diego.

9/24/19 10:03 AM
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I heard he was potentially getting a 4 year ban.


Anyone heard any more about it?

9/24/19 10:37 AM
9/13/16
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maybe he'll retire early like the mendes bros

2/7/20 5:07 PM
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Pissed hot for Ostarine. USADA ruled it was unintentional use (ok.........). Banned 1 year and stripped of his gold medal.

 

 

How shitty is the testing if USADA only found ostarine in his system?

2/7/20 6:35 PM
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I have read countless BJJ BLOG posts that have testified as to the character building benefits of BJJ.

There is simply no way a high level BJJ Black Belt would cheat at anything. Ever.

2/7/20 8:07 PM
5/28/02
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OSTERINE

 

 

NOT an anabolic steroid. I could see getting your pitchforks & torches out if he full of Winny, Deca or some other high profile testosterone. An over the counter supplement he had trace amounts of...? Suspending him is ridiculous