David Jacobs' BJJGround Ralek vs Rener/Ryron rolling?

3/14/19 12:48 AM
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How does Ralek stack up to his older brothers?or Kron for that matter. I know he got schooled by Gordon but that's nothing to be ashamed of.
3/14/19 12:41 PM
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Ryron got tapped by Josh Barnett,. who got beat by Gordon, who tapped Ralek.

 

His older brothers drank from the pure water longer though..so they're probably better.

3/14/19 1:02 PM
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Ralek is smaller

3/14/19 2:58 PM
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People forget that there is a large gap between the top 5% of high level BJJ athletes and others BJJers. I believe independent of training and conditioning, this is largely genetic. If you took 1000 people and trained them at BJJ for 10 years with athletic training only about 50 *might* be world champ material competing at the highest levels.
Ryron is just under that, highly skilled. From what I have heard Ralek is very very good, but of lesser skill than Kron, Ryron, or Ralek.
Ryron is the best Gracie of his generation from my perspective in terms of BJJ knowledge and skill. And that includes Kron. Kron is best Gracie competitor of his generation (Roger is about 7 years older).
3/14/19 3:15 PM
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Clark is in the same league.

3/15/19 2:31 AM
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Ralek has good jiu jitsu. Dont know if its on a world class level, but he is a very solid black belt.
I've trained with him twice.
Here is on the last Gracie Cruise. He caught me from the mount. We were brown belts.
https://youtu.be/JIQj88Qn_xQ
3/15/19 6:12 PM
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My opinion is that Ryron would be world class if he focused on it.

3/15/19 6:31 PM
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Just gym training, but I've seen Ryron easily pass and dominate world class competitors.  He's very long, has incredible base, and uses extremely elementary techniques.  He's a disaster for people with movement oriented games. 

3/16/19 1:47 AM
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3/16/19 4:56 AM
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CountKomaNewsletter - Ralek has good jiu jitsu. Dont know if its on a world class level, but he is a very solid black belt.
I've trained with him twice.
Here is on the last Gracie Cruise. He caught me from the mount. We were brown belts.
https://youtu.be/JIQj88Qn_xQ

Any insight on the Gracie Cruise as far as what the instructor's taught or stories they told?
3/21/19 4:16 PM
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The Mat Pimp -

Just gym training, but I've seen Ryron easily pass and dominate world class competitors.  He's very long, has incredible base, and uses extremely elementary techniques.  He's a disaster for people with movement oriented games. 

Too bad Josh Barnett wasn't a world class competitor 

3/21/19 10:30 PM
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Ernest Estrada - 
The Mat Pimp -

Just gym training, but I've seen Ryron easily pass and dominate world class competitors.  He's very long, has incredible base, and uses extremely elementary techniques.  He's a disaster for people with movement oriented games. 

Too bad Josh Barnett wasn't a world class competitor 


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3/22/19 3:59 PM
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HotSteppa - People forget that there is a large gap between the top 5% of high level BJJ athletes and others BJJers. I believe independent of training and conditioning, this is largely genetic. If you took 1000 people and trained them at BJJ for 10 years with athletic training only about 50 *might* be world champ material competing at the highest levels.
Ryron is just under that, highly skilled. From what I have heard Ralek is very very good, but of lesser skill than Kron, Ryron, or Ralek.
Ryron is the best Gracie of his generation from my perspective in terms of BJJ knowledge and skill. And that includes Kron. Kron is best Gracie competitor of his generation (Roger is about 7 years older).

Kron is likely better.

3/25/19 2:32 PM
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Ernest Estrada -
The Mat Pimp -

Just gym training, but I've seen Ryron easily pass and dominate world class competitors.  He's very long, has incredible base, and uses extremely elementary techniques.  He's a disaster for people with movement oriented games. 

Too bad Josh Barnett wasn't a world class competitor 

What a strange thing to say.  Of course he is.  Why did you quote me?