David Jacobs' BJJGround Ryan Hall’s Hitler Comments

9/21/20 8:08 PM
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Anyone else read his interview on bloodyelbow? I feel kinda dirty for having trained at his gym now. It’s ok though because the ghost of Hitler might apologize. One of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever read. 
 

 

9/21/20 8:15 PM
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uh oh what'd he say?

9/21/20 8:20 PM
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You have to read it. It’s unreal.

9/21/20 8:21 PM
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Why fucking go there right now? Horribly horribly misguided. Like wtf dude? 

Yes, I totally understand the sentiment, it is just so fucking unnecessary. 

9/21/20 8:23 PM
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It’s probably best to never use Hitler and anything positive together. Ever.

9/21/20 8:50 PM
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Wow, I did nazi that coming! 

9/21/20 9:23 PM
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Wow, I did nazi that coming! 

I see what you did there.

9/21/20 9:44 PM
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Fabes -

It’s probably best to never use Hitler and anything positive together. Ever.

https://listverse.com/2011/01/31/top-10-things-the-nazis-got-right/amp/

Edited: 9/21/20 9:45 PM
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Fabes -

It’s probably best to never use Hitler and anything positive together. Ever.

https://listverse.com/2017/06/23/10-fascinating-ways-the-nazis-influenced-fashion/amp/

9/21/20 9:52 PM
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Fabes -

It’s probably best to never use Hitler and anything positive together. Ever.

https://listverse.com/2011/01/31/top-10-things-the-nazis-got-right/amp/

Ok? Explain the relevance of said article to this post. 

9/21/20 9:53 PM
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Fabes -

It’s probably best to never use Hitler and anything positive together. Ever.

https://listverse.com/2011/01/31/top-10-things-the-nazis-got-right/amp/

Ok? Explain the relevance of said article to this post. 

None. But I did quote someone it would be related to. That is how quoting works! 

9/21/20 10:41 PM
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Fabes -

You have to read it. It’s unreal.

Better yet, go watch the 3 and a half hour podcast this was excerpted from (and not linked to in the BE article). The irony here is that in that very segment Hall was talking about how silly it was to take small snippets of what someone says to use against them in an attempt to "cancel" them, because that's what BE is trying to do with that article.

I wonder if they reached out to him to ask him to clarify those remarks before publishing the article. 

9/21/20 11:49 PM
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I  dont read anything fom BoodyElbow anymore.

 

9/22/20 8:07 AM
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Fabes -

You have to read it. It’s unreal.

Better yet, go watch the 3 and a half hour podcast this was excerpted from (and not linked to in the BE article). The irony here is that in that very segment Hall was talking about how silly it was to take small snippets of what someone says to use against them in an attempt to "cancel" them, because that's what BE is trying to do with that article.

I wonder if they reached out to him to ask him to clarify those remarks before publishing the article. 

I’m not watching 3.5 hours of anyone’s podcast.

9/22/20 9:29 AM
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pbody - 
Fabes -

You have to read it. It’s unreal.

Better yet, go watch the 3 and a half hour podcast this was excerpted from (and not linked to in the BE article). The irony here is that in that very segment Hall was talking about how silly it was to take small snippets of what someone says to use against them in an attempt to "cancel" them, because that's what BE is trying to do with that article.

I wonder if they reached out to him to ask him to clarify those remarks before publishing the article. 


When you start talking about the ghost of Hitler, I'm not sure there's really going to be a need for clarifying comments. Maybe Ryan should stick to bjj and MMA in his next interviews and try to avoid praising Hitler. That's all. 

9/22/20 9:40 AM
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Fabes - 
pbody -
Fabes -

You have to read it. It’s unreal.

Better yet, go watch the 3 and a half hour podcast this was excerpted from (and not linked to in the BE article). The irony here is that in that very segment Hall was talking about how silly it was to take small snippets of what someone says to use against them in an attempt to "cancel" them, because that's what BE is trying to do with that article.

I wonder if they reached out to him to ask him to clarify those remarks before publishing the article. 

I’m not watching 3.5 hours of anyone’s podcast.


It's within the first 30 minutes.  pbody is right.

9/22/20 9:53 AM
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Right. Cancel Culture is awful.

Using Hitler as an example....awful-er.

9/22/20 10:34 AM
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Fabes -

Right. Cancel Culture is awful.

Using Hitler as an example....awful-er.

Sure, but his entire point in that segment was that you shouldn't judge people on select statements cherry picker to make someone look bad. You said in your OP that you felt dirty having trained with him now, implying that Hall is somehow supportive of Hitler. That's exactly what that shitty clickbait BE article wants people to think, and it's complete bullshit. 

I don't know Ryan at all. I have never trained with him. But based on past interviews and behaviour, he seems like the last person to be a white nationalist or any type of alt right type of person. So maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt? He had a three and a half hour discussion with someone and made a bad analogy. If BE had any type of integrity whatsoever, they would have reached out to him for comment prior to writing an article like that. There's no indication in the article that they did. It's garbage journalism that's meant to illicit the type of reaction you had. They want you to think he's bad and jump on other parts of the internet and talk about it so they get more clicks. 

Edited: 9/22/20 10:58 AM
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Fair enough to have anything about Hitler rub you the wrong way, or think it's too extreme an analogy, insensitive, whatever.... But given the context of the actual discussion and his actual words, to phrase it as "praising Hitler" makes you so disingenuous it is unbelievable. Like actually breathtakingly dumb especially when you outwardly admit you are not going to listen to the podcast itself.

9/22/20 11:39 AM
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Mmhmm, Kenny. And how does that make you feel? Tell me, are you friendly with the Ghost of Hitler?

9/22/20 12:27 PM
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Why do people get so ass hurt if anyone mentions Hitler? Who gives a fuck.
9/22/20 1:41 PM
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Adrian Street - Why do people get so ass hurt if anyone mentions Hitler? Who gives a fuck.

And he called me dumb.

9/22/20 3:16 PM
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All I know is Hitler never gave discounts.
9/22/20 3:26 PM
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shen -
All I know is Hitler never gave discounts.

Ryan showing up here and threatening to slap whoever it was that asked for a discount on his DVDs was a top ten moment on the bjj forum. It was made even better when that poster dropped in at Ryan's place and they took a picture of Ryan slapping him. 

All other top ten slots are occupied by Ari Bolden threads.

9/22/20 3:44 PM
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I like Ryan. I am close with some of his guys. He said something stupid. Doesn’t change how I feel about him. I still wish him a happy Rosh Hashanah :)