mideastgrappler -Sgt. Slaphead -mideastgrappler -Lazarus -mideastgrappler -Soul Gravy - #notmyjiujitsu
#notyourjiujitsu for sure. Yours is obselete nowhere near that level. You think your jiujitsu is good but facts are, both guys have mastered fundamentals and basics at a level far beyond yours at a level you couldn't comprehend. Add in their intermediate and advanced games, they're speaking a language you don't even understand
And it still wouldn't work with strikes, which defeats the purpose of the art as originally practised.
If you challenge them and tell them BJJ rules only, no strikes allowed, engage them, then sucker punch them since they're under the guise that strikes aren't allowed, then yes, they may not be as effective
Now if you man up and challenge them and tell them strikes allowed, grappling wise, you will probably still get your shit pushed in
Just like boxing.....you tell them their head movement won't work witht heir slipping and combinations....that's true if you make them think only boxing. But now tell them kicks are allowed, you may still catch them off guard but the chances of them whooping your ass witht heir specialty skills is still highly possible
If you are talking a sport trained guy and an elite, but just ad crappy strking....sure.
IMO there is so much more to training jiujitsu for fighting than just adding strikes. Competant striking, footwork, movements, controlling/pinn8ng and striking with.power&precision v flailing are very different.
And who cares what an elite athlete can do.....what can the averge joe do with that training methodology?.....is it useful, efficeint, effectivee?m
I agree with what youre saying and I get it. But, most of the people on this thread are commenting specificly about Mikey and Miyao pictured in the original post and saying stuff about their BJJ not working, and those are who I was directing my comments towards. WHen in fact, their BJJ is more than what people see when they berimbolo, invert, play lapel guards, etc. and their basics are more fundamentally sound than majority of people who train BJJ for any purpose. Their basic passes, pressure, submission holds, and takedowns are immensely powerful but people shit on that because they see them berimbolo'ing nearly everytime in elite level competition
I guarantee their basic armbar from closed guard or mount has immensely more details, pressure, and breaking power in it than any Rickson Gracie trained black belt who focuses on realistic "Invisible" self defense jiujitsu
I also guarantee their entry and pressure in their takedown or bodylock is just as brutal than any self defense focused BJJ practioner that does spar with live strike and clinch skills. But their timing to enter vs strikes may not be as sharp because yes, they don't actively train those type of skills because their profession doesn't demand it. And this opens up doors for haters to demean and undermine their amazing skills which I find extrmely unfair
No one said they don't have good fundamentals. But you fight the way you train, and with as much specificity as they use in their games, with a focus on competition within a very rigid ruleset and an emphasis on things like advantage points, that means they've gone so far beyond the practical considerations off BJJ that they've most likely lost sight of its use for real violence.
They spend most of their BJJ time occupying a very niche territory in a very specific way for a very specific purpose. There are a ton of other competitors and champions who have much more realistic grappling that haven't abandoned the core tenets of the art.