GeekGround Mark Millar on why revealing Superman's id is bad.

12/31/19 2:48 PM
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From https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/12/31/mark-millar-superman-secret-identity-spider-man/
 
Mark Millar popped by John Siuntres' Word Balloon podcast before Christmas to talk about his work for Netflix, what led up to it and the state of comic books today, and over the past few decades. Siuntres also asked him about the news of Brian Bendis, Ivan Reis and Joe Prado getting rid of Superman's secret identity as Clark Kent. Millar tells John,
 
"I hate the idea of this being used against Bendis because I do love him. Brian is one of my favourite people in the industry and I love that he's doing this stunt because this stunt is a great stunt. Comics work best with a great little stunt out there... and will make the tabloid newspapers.
 
But I do think from a storytelling point of view I'm a massive fan of secret identities. I think secret identities is the most important component of all superhero things. It's one of Marvel's mistakes of 2000 to get rid of the secret identity
 
'Secret identities' is what the reader is and then they become the hero through reading the stories... Kids identify with the human and then get a chance to do these adventures. Something quite unique to superheroes, someone who pretends to be a coward or a dandy. It works when Bruce Wayne pretended to be a shallow, shallow person, the last person you'd believe to be Batman. And the same with Clark Kent, a guy who can crush a diamond, and yet chooses to spend eight hours a day sitting and typing and taking abuse and hiding behind a pair of glasses. That's the mythology of it. A god choosing to become a person, and I love that..."
 
And he's keeping that aspect in the Netflix adaptation of Jupiter's Legacy, which has just wrapped filming, with people sneaking off to become superheroes when they are needed. "I kinda miss that". But he also talked about when he did the same, taking away Spider-Man's secret identity as Peter Parker in Civil War. A storyline that had superheroes being employed by the government as police officers, having to give up their secret identity to do so. But at Marvel at the time, lots of characters didn't have one, it was just Daredevil and Spider-Man. Joe Quesada said that they were going to be rebooting Spider-Man 'with a magic wish' in a year, so Peter Parker giving up his secret identity was a safer story to do in that respect. But as Millar says,
 
"The clever thing is we're talking about Superman for the first time in years. Remember in the 90's when they gave Superman a mullet? You have to do something in Superman to shake things up once in awhile, and I prefer the secret identity change to the mullet."
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It really doesn't matter.  It's DC.  Give them a week and they'll retcon it.

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If they were going to go bold and have Supes pay some real consequences maybe. No free time, no time to just be a person and relax and some people close to him getting badly hurt I would be for it. It could lead to some really neat story telling. But it won't and they will retcon it.

1/15/20 9:07 PM
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Wasn't Millar the guy who had Spider-Man reveal his identity?

1/16/20 9:36 AM
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blabbermouth - 

Wasn't Millar the guy who had Spider-Man reveal his identity?


In Civil War, yes. But if you read the original post carefully, you'l note   But he [Millar] also talked about when he did the same, taking away Spider-Man's secret identity as Peter Parker in Civil War. A storyline that had superheroes being employed by the government as police officers, having to give up their secret identity to do so. But at Marvel at the time, lots of characters didn't have one, it was just Daredevil and Spider-Man. Joe Quesada said that they were going to be rebooting Spider-Man 'with a magic wish' in a year, so Peter Parker giving up his secret identity was a safer story to do in that respect.

Millar is also consistent (and correct) in saying Bendis revealing Superman's identity is a stunt.

 

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BigWilliam - Another difference is Superman doesn't need his secret the way Spidey does. Superman can fly away anywhere to get peace and quiet. Peter Parker doesn't have that option.

I disagree. Once Superman is revealed as Clark Kent it immediately puts his family (Lois, Ma, Pa, son), friends and co-workers in danger. 

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blabbermouth - 

Wasn't Millar the guy who had Spider-Man reveal his identity?


In Civil War, yes. But if you read the original post carefully, you'l note   But he [Millar] also talked about when he did the same, taking away Spider-Man's secret identity as Peter Parker in Civil War. A storyline that had superheroes being employed by the government as police officers, having to give up their secret identity to do so. But at Marvel at the time, lots of characters didn't have one, it was just Daredevil and Spider-Man. Joe Quesada said that they were going to be rebooting Spider-Man 'with a magic wish' in a year, so Peter Parker giving up his secret identity was a safer story to do in that respect.

Millar is also consistent (and correct) in saying Bendis revealing Superman's identity is a stunt.

 

I don't think it's any different. It was a stunt, just like this Superman thing. If anything, Bendis' Superman stunt is "safer" because we all know the entire DC universe is going to be retconned many times over the next few years.

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paw - 
BigWilliam - Another difference is Superman doesn't need his secret the way Spidey does. Superman can fly away anywhere to get peace and quiet. Peter Parker doesn't have that option.

I disagree. Once Superman is revealed as Clark Kent it immediately puts his family (Lois, Ma, Pa, son), friends and co-workers in danger. 


Yes, but it doesn't really put HIM in danger is my point.
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BigWilliam - 
paw - 
BigWilliam - Another difference is Superman doesn't need his secret the way Spidey does. Superman can fly away anywhere to get peace and quiet. Peter Parker doesn't have that option.

I disagree. Once Superman is revealed as Clark Kent it immediately puts his family (Lois, Ma, Pa, son), friends and co-workers in danger. 


Yes, but it doesn't really put HIM in danger is my point.

Well, he's Superman. Written properly, Superman is never in danger (slight exaggeration, but only slight).

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paw - 
BigWilliam - 
paw - 
BigWilliam - Another difference is Superman doesn't need his secret the way Spidey does. Superman can fly away anywhere to get peace and quiet. Peter Parker doesn't have that option.

I disagree. Once Superman is revealed as Clark Kent it immediately puts his family (Lois, Ma, Pa, son), friends and co-workers in danger. 


Yes, but it doesn't really put HIM in danger is my point.

Well, he's Superman. Written properly, Superman is never in danger (slight exaggeration, but only slight).


The only point I was trying to get across is that the stakes are higher for Spidey in revealing himself than they are for Supes.