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9/10/16 6:21 PM
6/15/07
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demandango - Correlation does not equal causation. These anecdotes listed above are bs. It is established fact that vaccines have nothing to do with autism. Saying it is, is the type of thing someone should be embarrassed to do. Phone Post 3.0

Being you is something someone should be embarrassed to do. You are retarded, and you idiots that elevate the scientific-political groupthink to unquestionable cult status are a serious danger to society. You should be ashamed of yourself, if you had a brain.
9/10/16 6:28 PM
1/1/01
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My cousin was nearly killed by a childhood vaccine. He operates at about the level of an 18-month-old, and he's 24 years old. He gets money from the government due to a class-action suit that established that an adverse reaction to a vaccine (MMR, I think?) caused seizures, brain damage, and lifelong near-total disability. I still got my daughter vaccinated, though. Phone Post 3.0
9/10/16 7:08 PM
10/13/02
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Festus - What blows my mind is that for the kid whose parents refused to vaccinate, his/her parent must send a letter to the school that they don't vaccinate and they are not required to. Shouldn't that be the other way around? Aren't they putting others at risk for not getting vaccinated? Shouldn't the school have to send a letter to all the other parents asking if it's OK that a kid who was not vaccinated be allowed around their kid? Isn't it a risk to the other kids?

Point being...VACCINATE YOUR KID. Freaking morons. Phone Post 3.0
How woukd an unvaccinated kid put vaccinated kids at risk? Hmmmm.... Phone Post 3.0
9/10/16 7:20 PM
11/28/08
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The anti-vaxxer argument is based on one sceintific paper that has been discredited an ripped to shreds countless times over. There is no support for it at all.

And now polio is making a comeback. Thanks, dipshits.

9/10/16 7:55 PM
6/15/07
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The scientific establishment, like every other modern institution, is disastrously corrupt when any sort of political/corporate agenda is involved. It's top down corruption. When your government is this corrupt it infects everything else in your society. But it's the new religion. They tell you whatever they want you to think and you buy it. No questions asked. That's why you deserve for your kids to be brain damaged. You asked for this.

A nation of sheep will be ruled by wolves.
9/10/16 8:03 PM
6/15/07
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Yes it's a very funny subject. Hilarious really. But America is like the idiot BLM protestor who was standing in the street and got hit by a car.

And you scorn people for telling you the truth.

You get what you deserve. I no longer have any sympathy.
9/10/16 8:10 PM
7/7/10
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my boss is an anti vaxxer, and i SWEAR her kid is in the emergency room every month with something. 

 

 

9/10/16 8:14 PM
6/15/07
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Thacommish - 
AlbertEinstein - Yes it's a very funny subject. Hilarious really. But America is like the idiot BLM protestor who was standing in the street and got hit by a car.

And you scorn people for telling you the truth.

You get what you deserve. I no longer have any sympathy.

Why not say anything at all related to vaccinations instead of broad sweeping statements about how stupid people are. You seem unable to have a conversation about vaccinations in a thread about vaccinations


Do the world a favor and get all your flu shots every year. Maybe get into a road rage incident and attack someone with a metal pipe.

One can dream at least.
9/11/16 5:20 AM
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Einstein: so woke it hurts. Phone Post 3.0
9/11/16 7:43 AM
11/28/08
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AlbertEinstein - The scientific establishment, like every other modern institution, is disastrously corrupt when any sort of political/corporate agenda is involved. It's top down corruption. When your government is this corrupt it infects everything else in your society. But it's the new religion. They tell you whatever they want you to think and you buy it. No questions asked. That's why you deserve for your kids to be brain damaged. You asked for this.

A nation of sheep will be ruled by wolves.
Yup, science is bullshit. Where do you get your info from instead? Phone Post 3.0
9/11/16 8:30 AM
6/20/13
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anthonyMI -
AlbertEinstein - The scientific establishment, like every other modern institution, is disastrously corrupt when any sort of political/corporate agenda is involved. It's top down corruption. When your government is this corrupt it infects everything else in your society. But it's the new religion. They tell you whatever they want you to think and you buy it. No questions asked. That's why you deserve for your kids to be brain damaged. You asked for this.

A nation of sheep will be ruled by wolves.
Yup, science is bullshit. Where do you get your info from instead? Phone Post 3.0
Eddie Bravo agrees..

He is right too. Phone Post 3.0
9/11/16 6:25 PM
6/20/13
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Mark1 -
treesmasher - depends. which vaccines? is all the extra crap the put in vaccines necessary? i think those are legit questions.
Lol. What "extra crap"

Mark Phone Post 3.0
Human DNA and aluminum Phone Post 3.0
9/11/16 6:49 PM
1/1/01
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Thacommish -
mestregruber - My cousin was nearly killed by a childhood vaccine. He operates at about the level of an 18-month-old, and he's 24 years old. He gets money from the government due to a class-action suit that established that an adverse reaction to a vaccine (MMR, I think?) caused seizures, brain damage, and lifelong near-total disability. I still got my daughter vaccinated, though. Phone Post 3.0

In for more info on this class action lawsuit that mustve been from around 1994ish that should be easy to find

After checking with my dad (he's a lawyer and filed the paperwork on my cousin's behalf), it was circa 1995 and an individual settlement through the so-called "vaccine court". Phone Post 3.0
9/14/16 12:53 PM
1/1/01
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Beards - http://circleofdocs.com/harvard-trained-immunologist-demolishes-california-legislation-that-terminates-vaccine-exemptions/
That you find this article compelling shows America's problem with education.


http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/appeal-to-false-authority-who-is-tetyana-obukhanych/ Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 3:22 PM
1/1/01
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Beards - http://www.anonews.co/vaccine/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/04/12/lead-developer-of-hpv-vaccines-comes-clean-to-warn-parents-young-girls/
Did you really just link to the most debunked anti vax piece on the Internet Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 3:24 PM
6/20/13
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SV-40 virus Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 3:49 PM
12/15/13
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Do half of you even visit a doctor regularly? They're just big pharma shills. I've had many digestive problems and not one Dr or specialist has recommended a diet change. The only course of action is meds. Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 4:10 PM
5/20/10
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Slapsymaxi - http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com

I'd like to see all of you pro vaccine, stooges of pharma explain everything at this link! Phone Post 3.0
Voted up. Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 4:24 PM
10/6/14
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popcornkilldya - Do half of you even visit a doctor regularly? They're just big pharma shills. I've had many digestive problems and not one Dr or specialist has recommended a diet change. The only course of action is meds. Phone Post 3.0
I actually agree with you somewhat here but i dont think the reason is "shilling" i think the reason is simplicity. Obamacare and all the cms patients who dont pay are making it harder for doctors to pay the bills.

They have to cram more and more patients in a shorter amount of time. I work in polysomnography and its the same for us. We just dont have as much time as we would like to sit and talk with our patients.

So i agree that it is wrong that doctors prescribe meds first and ask questions later but i dont think it is the product of the pharmaceutical companies, i think it is much quicker and easier to write a script and send a person on there way rather than sit down and talk with them for 30-45 minutes Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 4:46 PM
1/1/01
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Diet changes don't always do much or do it alone. But I'm sure you know better than your doctor the treatment that is indicated by your condition. Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 4:59 PM
6/3/09
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popcornkilldya - Do half of you even visit a doctor regularly? They're just big pharma shills. I've had many digestive problems and not one Dr or specialist has recommended a diet change. The only course of action is meds. Phone Post 3.0
If you believe your diet is the cause of your problems why haven't addressed your diet yourself? Or at the very least ask your doctor. I don't recall ever seeing a doctor and them not asking if I have any questions. Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 5:13 PM
1/1/01
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My doctor has always recommend a healthy diet. The thing is, diet isn't fucking medicine. You can eliminate risk factors with a healthy diet. Healthy diet isn't a fix that works in place of medicine in many if not most conditions. All of you that know better than your doctor should go breeze your way through med school and get a raise. Phone Post 3.0
9/21/16 5:19 PM
12/25/14
Posts: 730

The guy that wrote the journal in the lancet was proven a fraud. He got a huge kick back from attorneys. 

It all started as a money grab. 

Just had my first son, he will get all vaccines on scheduled dates. 

Edited: 9/21/16 5:56 PM
1/1/01
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demandango - My doctor has always recommend a healthy diet. The thing is, diet isn't fucking medicine. You can eliminate risk factors with a healthy diet. Healthy diet isn't a fix that works in place of medicine in many if not most conditions. All of you that know better than your doctor should go breeze your way through med school and get a raise. Phone Post 3.0

This. I've had GERD before and the first thing my gastro said was that changing diet could have a huge effect. And it does. But some people may either refuse to change it up too much or diet doesn't go far enough.

 

P.S. AlbertEinstein knows his shit. He's smarter than Stephen Hawking or Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Just ask him. Seriously.

9/24/16 3:20 PM
5/20/10
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Beards - This fine company create vaccines

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/22/epipen-maylan-ceo-defend-price-hikes-congress-heather-bresch?client=safari

https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/edsilverman/2013/09/24/what-did-mylan-get-for-1-6-billlion-a-vaccine-maker-with-a-troubled-factory/amp/?client=safari

Oh, but wait it's vaccines! Vaccines are a different entity. Companies can be completely unethical and driven only by profit, but when it comes to vaccine production they are like little angels floating down from heaven to save the sick.

Some people no matter how much it's in their face will never see how manipulated they are by the media with "science"



Wait. So your evidence that underpins your case for vaccines causing autism, is that a drug company hiked the price of epi pens?

And because they're bad people because they dared exploit shoddy legislation, that mean they're happy to peddle a cure that's going to be used for international vaccination programmes?

With logic like that how can anyone fail to take up your cause? Phone Post 3.0