OtherGround Forums Beating Bitterness by Joel Osteen

8/17/19 2:11 PM
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8/17/19 2:17 PM
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Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..
8/17/19 3:03 PM
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This desert frog makes more sense than this hoodoo POS!

 

8/17/19 3:05 PM
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Fuck joel osteen and all charlatans like him. 

8/17/19 3:21 PM
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tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?
8/17/19 3:28 PM
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tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

I never understood the idea of taking direction from those who preach it. I prefer learning from the quiet guy doing well for himself on his own. 

8/17/19 3:29 PM
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HotSteppa -
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

Il explain ... 

He is a pastor of a church that is bible based.  

Yet his teachings conflict with the word of god. He preaches inner strength and the law of attraction,  which is a big no no to what the bible says. His message isn't bad or wrong.  The problem is he's using the church and it's people to make money and run a motivational business tax free.   He cons morons into giving money for god, and he doesn't believe or teach the word of god. 

8/17/19 3:29 PM
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HotSteppa -
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

Because he preaches about being a good person but when his community needed him most he tried to lock his church doors.

That's really the universal sign that a pastor is a pos. 

8/17/19 3:33 PM
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HotSteppa - 
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

He's a typical tv evangelist.. A fraud and a wolf in sheep's clothing.... He's the hyprocrit that Jesus was talking about .. Lover of $$ and not people...
8/17/19 3:38 PM
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mongrel 911 - 

This desert frog makes more sense than this hoodoo POS!

 


How does that thing survive for longer than 2 months without getting eaten?
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You can't beat Father Time though.

8/17/19 3:42 PM
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Fuck that grifter POS.
8/17/19 3:43 PM
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lol.

He seems like a parody, not a real person. A very funny good one off of Mr. Show.
8/17/19 3:54 PM
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CRE - You can't beat Father Time though.

 

8/17/19 4:04 PM
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Any human who pretends to know "the word of god" is a charlatan. Pure and simple. Extra credit for the charlatan who charges money to talk about it.

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Jesus was against the money making schemes of his day right? Didn’t Jesús go into the temple and wreck all the tables of people selling goods? Didn’t he say to them “My fathers house is not a marketplace?” Wasn’t his whole teaching centered around praying in private instead of letting everyone see you pray in public (virtue signalling).

 

It seems like most modern “for profit” ministries are completely against the teachings of Jesus. And if you want to go a step further, worshipping pastors like they are rock stars is also something Paul spoke about at great length in Corinthians. That was a huge problem in the early churches - people following around various pastors like they were rock stars. They had groupies just like Joel Osteen does. About this specific thing Paul said literally “you gotta be kidding me”

8/17/19 4:17 PM
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So what youre saying Joel is fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

8/17/19 4:26 PM
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EFM -

So what youre saying Joel is fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation causes your worst fears to come true

8/17/19 4:36 PM
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God Of Thunder -
EFM -

So what youre saying Joel is fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation causes your worst fears to come true

Not according to Yoda. 

8/17/19 4:54 PM
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The issue is that he teaches the prosperity gospel, which is heresy. Basically he teaches that God wants you to be blessed with good health and good finances and if you pray hard enough and give enough to his church you'll get what you want. It doesn't take a genius to read the new testament and see what the problem is with this type of theology.

8/17/19 5:04 PM
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HoneyGlazedJinx -

Jesus was against the money making schemes of his day right? Didn’t Jesús go into the temple and wreck all the tables of people selling goods? Didn’t he say to them “My fathers house is not a marketplace?” Wasn’t his whole teaching centered around praying in private instead of letting everyone see you pray in public (virtue signalling).

 

It seems like most modern “for profit” ministries are completely against the teachings of Jesus. And if you want to go a step further, worshipping pastors like they are rock stars is also something Paul spoke about at great length in Corinthians. That was a huge problem in the early churches - people following around various pastors like they were rock stars. They had groupies just like Joel Osteen does. About this specific thing Paul said literally “you gotta be kidding me”

I do remember a good bit of this from religious ed with the nuns.

8/17/19 5:07 PM
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EFM -
God Of Thunder -
EFM -

So what youre saying Joel is fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation causes your worst fears to come true

Not according to Yoda. 

According to Bhodi 

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8/17/19 5:42 PM
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"Many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord'".......

8/17/19 6:17 PM
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I probably wouldn't be bitter if I had a private jet.