OtherGround Forums Beating Bitterness by Joel Osteen

28 days ago
6/27/18
Posts: 3774

^ And let's not forget he misrepresents the words of Christ. He is the definition of a false prophet.

The Bible has explicitly and repeatedly warned us against people like him.

I don't know how anyone who has read the word and considers themselves Christian can follow this money changer.

28 days ago
7/26/07
Posts: 86311
TequilaYuen - 

^ And let's not forget he misrepresents the words of Christ. He is the definition of a false prophet.

The Bible has explicitly and repeatedly warned us against people like him.

I don't know how anyone who has read the word and considers themselves Christian can follow this money changer.


People are fucking idiots, that's why.

I don't understand how people can fall for some of these phishing scams either online or cold calling you on your phone...but they do.
People sending scammers thousands of dollars in itunes gift cards to avoid jail-time for IRS taxes, after responding to a pre-recorded scammy phone call. The stupidity of that entire scam is mind boggling.

I feel like some of the more down-on-their-luck, not so bright, religious people, especially in the south and in the bible belt....maybe aren't the highest critical thinkers when it comes to stuff like this.
28 days ago
7/26/07
Posts: 86312
I see this guy, and i just see a wolf in sheep's clothing.

EXPENSIVE sheep's clothing.
28 days ago
6/27/18
Posts: 3779
Chimonos Revenge - I see this guy, and i just see a wolf in sheep's clothing.

EXPENSIVE sheep's clothing.

Matthew 7:15

28 days ago
1/9/19
Posts: 1931

 HATES Joel Osteen for WINNING and preaching American CAPITALISM WIN.......HATES Liberal Socialism.........CONSERVATIVE Muslims are unAmerican.........HATES BIG GOV HEALTHCARE yet complains about GFMs and Philanthrophy NonProfits........LOVES GUNS and Capitalism but Lectures what the BIBLE says about Joel Osteen Preaching Positivity while making $$$ from that.......HATES LIBERAL SOCIALIST POPE yet also HATES CAPITALIST JOEL OSTEEN.......-------the OG

 

 

I am VERY CONFUSED!

28 days ago
11/16/14
Posts: 293
MagicMark -
HotSteppa -
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

Il explain ... 

He is a pastor of a church that is bible based.  

Yet his teachings conflict with the word of god. He preaches inner strength and the law of attraction,  which is a big no no to what the bible says. His message isn't bad or wrong.  The problem is he's using the church and it's people to make money and run a motivational business tax free.   He cons morons into giving money for god, and he doesn't believe or teach the word of god. 

False. His ministry does more in a few hours than you will do in your whole life. 

28 days ago
12/4/08
Posts: 1685
Los Pistol -
MagicMark -
HotSteppa -
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

Il explain ... 

He is a pastor of a church that is bible based.  

Yet his teachings conflict with the word of god. He preaches inner strength and the law of attraction,  which is a big no no to what the bible says. His message isn't bad or wrong.  The problem is he's using the church and it's people to make money and run a motivational business tax free.   He cons morons into giving money for god, and he doesn't believe or teach the word of god. 

False. His ministry does more in a few hours than you will do in your whole life. 

Bilks people out of hundreds of millions of dollars.. gives a little bit of it back. OMG WHAT A GREAT MAN!!

28 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 35408
Mattress Mac is the real deal in Houston, not this con artist.

28 days ago
1/3/18
Posts: 5319
theraskal -

 HATES Joel Osteen for WINNING and preaching American CAPITALISM WIN.......HATES Liberal Socialism.........CONSERVATIVE Muslims are unAmerican.........HATES BIG GOV HEALTHCARE yet complains about GFMs and Philanthrophy NonProfits........LOVES GUNS and Capitalism but Lectures what the BIBLE says about Joel Osteen Preaching Positivity while making $$$ from that.......HATES LIBERAL SOCIALIST POPE yet also HATES CAPITALIST JOEL OSTEEN.......-------the OG

 

 

I am VERY CONFUSED!

You’re confused because you’re either ill informed or really stupid 

28 days ago
8/15/07
Posts: 16873
Los Pistol - 
MagicMark -
HotSteppa -
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

Il explain ... 

He is a pastor of a church that is bible based.  

Yet his teachings conflict with the word of god. He preaches inner strength and the law of attraction,  which is a big no no to what the bible says. His message isn't bad or wrong.  The problem is he's using the church and it's people to make money and run a motivational business tax free.   He cons morons into giving money for god, and he doesn't believe or teach the word of god. 

False. His ministry does more in a few hours than you will do in your whole life. 


Please address how his teachings align with Biblical scripture.
28 days ago
8/15/07
Posts: 16874
Los Pistol - 
MagicMark -
HotSteppa -
tajmills - Can't understand why anyone would listen to that charlatan..

How is he a charlatan?

Il explain ... 

He is a pastor of a church that is bible based.  

Yet his teachings conflict with the word of god. He preaches inner strength and the law of attraction,  which is a big no no to what the bible says. His message isn't bad or wrong.  The problem is he's using the church and it's people to make money and run a motivational business tax free.   He cons morons into giving money for god, and he doesn't believe or teach the word of god. 

False. His ministry does more in a few hours than you will do in your whole life. 


Please address how his teachings align with Biblical scripture.
Edited: 28 days ago
1/19/12
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UGPTT_Rear Naked Chode -

I probably wouldn't be bitter if I had a private jet.

They’re greedy as hell

 

 

28 days ago
10/11/18
Posts: 3153
ABCTT_GROUNDnLB -
UGPTT_Rear Naked Chode -

I probably wouldn't be bitter if I had a private jet.

They’re greedy as hell

 

 

Well that sucks...I've always wanted to talk to God (maybe confront the guy about my micropeen) but I guess since I can only afford a normal airline with a bunch of other passengers I am bereft of such divine privilege.  

28 days ago
12/4/18
Posts: 2441
beatbum -

Just watched the OP vid. I've watched this one. Those of you that criticize him; how the fack was this bad?? You obviously didn't watch. Listen to it and tell me how "Let go of bitterness because it's contaminating your life" is a bad message.

Exactly right people are hating on this guy without even watching the actual video

28 days ago
10/1/02
Posts: 8953

It's just motivational speaking. Yes with ties to the Bible but not necessarilly a full Christian lecture. I think the ties to the bible make it a little more sound, even tho he's not doing exactly what other "more christian" preachers are doing.

I think his advice and lectures are more valuable because they are REAL. They actually tell you stuff you can use. I too listened to his stuff while in a dark state when dealing with my wife watning out. They helped me keep sane. And I really like his message about "God wants you to live up to your potential." Something I deeply believe. 

God gave you a gift? But instead of using it you dismiss it and would rather do nothing and be a fucking bum?? Shame on you for wasting God's gift. Make something of yourself. At least try. 

So he says he is a non profit. I don't care about that. He really is spreading positivity and helping people. He has the right to be rich just like I do and yes, even the fucking retards on here do too. They just don't believe in themselves.

28 days ago
3/17/14
Posts: 18878
beatbum -

It's just motivational speaking. Yes with ties to the Bible but not necessarilly a full Christian lecture. I think the ties to the bible make it a little more sound, even tho he's not doing exactly what other "more christian" preachers are doing.

I think his advice and lectures are more valuable because they are REAL. They actually tell you stuff you can use. I too listened to his stuff while in a dark state when dealing with my wife watning out. They helped me keep sane. And I really like his message about "God wants you to live up to your potential." Something I deeply believe. 

God gave you a gift? But instead of using it you dismiss it and would rather do nothing and be a fucking bum?? Shame on you for wasting God's gift. Make something of yourself. At least try. 

So he says he is a non profit. I don't care about that. He really is spreading positivity and helping people. He has the right to be rich just like I do and yes, even the fucking retards on here do too. They just don't believe in themselves.

"Not a full Christian lecture" and that's the problem.

If he wants to he a motivational speaker then fine. However hes using the church as his base to get people in the door.

28 days ago
10/1/02
Posts: 8954

Why can't he be a motivational speaker with a base in the Bible. As opposed to others that have no bible connection. Doesn't it enhance his message? As in, "Don't be bitter. God does not want you to be bitter and hold on to negativity. He wants you to be happy." And then quotes a verse. No?

28 days ago
3/17/14
Posts: 18879
beatbum -

Why can't he be a motivational speaker with a base in the Bible. As opposed to others that have no bible connection. Doesn't it enhance his message? As in, "Don't be bitter. God does not want you to be bitter and hold on to negativity. He wants you to be happy." And then quotes a verse. No?

Not it does not enhance the message. It goes against the message as it contradicts what the bible wants.

In fact it go against what god wants. The bible is the word of god. It literally says in the bible that the word of god is all you need and cant be enhanced. To think the word of god can be enhanced is blasphemous.

28 days ago
6/27/18
Posts: 3864

1 Timothy 6:9-10 "Those who wish for riches fall into temptation and a snare, into senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.

For love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some who crave money have wandered from the faith, and pierced themselves with griefs."

27 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 20864

Has Joel Osteen ever said anythig in public about the hundreds of separated children stuck in detention centers across Texas? Not trying to bash the guy, I was just wondering. There are detention centers in Karnes, McAllen, and Brownsville, for instance.

Does he ever say anything about current events? I've listened to him on SiriusXM 128 a few times and he never seems to talk about what's going on in the world.

27 days ago
10/11/18
Posts: 3156
Lofland -

Has Joel Osteen ever said anythig in public about the hundreds of separated children stuck in detention centers across Texas? Not trying to bash the guy, I was just wondering. There are detention centers in Karnes, McAllen, and Brownsville, for instance.

Does he ever say anything about current events? I've listened to him on SiriusXM 128 a few times and he never seems to talk about what's going on in the world.

You think he knows what's going on in a world outside of his?

27 days ago
7/26/07
Posts: 86337
mysteryman -
Lofland -

Has Joel Osteen ever said anythig in public about the hundreds of separated children stuck in detention centers across Texas? Not trying to bash the guy, I was just wondering. There are detention centers in Karnes, McAllen, and Brownsville, for instance.

Does he ever say anything about current events? I've listened to him on SiriusXM 128 a few times and he never seems to talk about what's going on in the world.

You think he knows what's going on in a world outside of his?

Because that shits not important to him. What is important to him is selling wolf tickets and getting those donations

27 days ago
5/13/02
Posts: 31299

 

Sounds like a bunch of bitter people angry at wealthy people

I'm completely apathetic to the guy, who cares

Are any of you enterained at all by people with positive messages like that Wes guy someone posted about prison life?  I can listen to any of these people because it's somewhat interesting, unlike that hair rocket guy on History channel that talks about "ancient astronaut theorists"

I don't get this place that anyone who doesn't listen to this guy could give a rats ass

27 days ago
3/17/14
Posts: 18880
theseanster -

 

Sounds like a bunch of bitter people angry at wealthy people

I'm completely apathetic to the guy, who cares

Are any of you enterained at all by people with positive messages like that Wes guy someone posted about prison life?  I can listen to any of these people because it's somewhat interesting, unlike that hair rocket guy on History channel that talks about "ancient astronaut theorists"

I don't get this place that anyone who doesn't listen to this guy could give a rats ass

Again, there is not wrong with him being rich.

What is wrong is him using god and the church as a platform to sell books. This goes directly against what Jesus wants. Its literally in the bible they jesus kicked merchants out of his father house.

There is not defense to calling yourself a Christian and doing the thing Jesus could not stand for.

26 days ago
5/13/02
Posts: 31312
BruteDion - 
theseanster -

 

Sounds like a bunch of bitter people angry at wealthy people

I'm completely apathetic to the guy, who cares

Are any of you enterained at all by people with positive messages like that Wes guy someone posted about prison life?  I can listen to any of these people because it's somewhat interesting, unlike that hair rocket guy on History channel that talks about "ancient astronaut theorists"

I don't get this place that anyone who doesn't listen to this guy could give a rats ass

Again, there is not wrong with him being rich.

What is wrong is him using god and the church as a platform to sell books. This goes directly against what Jesus wants. Its literally in the bible they jesus kicked merchants out of his father house.

There is not defense to calling yourself a Christian and doing the thing Jesus could not stand for.


I dunno what Jesus wants except from what I've always heard as some fundamental thing about loving your neighbor - and I just don't see the issue with him selling books or anything else if the net better is that is somehow enhances people's lives.

Seems like your only issue here is that you think he should live more modestly.