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9/24/20 8:33 AM
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Trump will trounce Biden.

Harris will trounce Pence.

Pence is a pussy who will try and play "Mr. Statesman". Dude has Paul Ryan energy.


Correct. He's entirely too soft to deal with a vitriolic cunt like Harris. She is going to thrash him.


Agreed

His only hope is pointing out the disparities between what she says and what she has actually done while in office. Problem is, he's such a bland guy that even if he nails her, nobody will notice. They'll only remember her cuntish moments.
9/24/20 8:46 AM
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Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

How many voters do you think actually understand issues and policy positions?

Hint: it's a TINY minority. Most people vote for the person that made the biggest impression on them, or who does something memorable. That's why incumbents almost always win, despite their constituents being dissatisfied with their performance. It's also why so many spouses and children of long-time incumbents cruise to victory after that incumbent retires/dies. They vote for that familiar name, not policies.

It's also why obviously charismatic candidates win votes over boring, staid, technocrats. It's why so many of the same people in flyover country who voted for Obama in 2008/12 voted for Trump in 2016, despite them being polar opposites in almost every way. They voted for charismatic candidate that was foremost in their minds.

Trump's greatest strength is his charisma and making an impression on everyone who sees him and being memorable. That helps him win votes. Will it be enough? Who knows. We'll find out in a few weeks.
9/24/20 8:49 AM
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Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

Biden has been in Politics for 47 years. You know everything you need to know about him. 

9/24/20 9:26 AM
4/3/20
Posts: 1708
Steve4192 - 
VirusHoax - 
Steve4192 - 
Bill Mahoney - 

Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

How many voters do you think actually understand issues and policy positions?

Hint: it's a TINY minority. Most people vote for the person that made the biggest impression on them, or who does something memorable. That's why incumbents almost always win, despite their constituents being dissatisfied with their performance. It's also why so many spouses and children of long-time incumbents cruise to victory after that incumbent retires/dies. They vote for that familiar name, not policies.

It's also why obviously charismatic candidates win votes over boring, staid, technocrats. It's why so many of the same people in flyover country who voted for Obama in 2008/12 voted for Trump in 2016, despite them being polar opposites in almost every way. They voted for charismatic candidate that was foremost in their minds.

Trump's greatest strength is his charisma and making an impression on everyone who sees him and being memorable. That helps him win votes. Will it be enough? Who knows. We'll find out in a few weeks.

yes, i understand that there are a lot of disinterested idiots (although HRC did receive 3,000,000 more votes than trump did, so your conclusion about what people want/like is dubious at best)

you criticized the media for evaluating substance and not fawning over idiocracy in assessing the debates. wouldn't the media's job be to evaluate the substance and accuracy of a debate, rather than chest bump over insults?

by this standard, Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho would "win" any debate.
9/24/20 9:28 AM
4/3/20
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Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

Biden has been in Politics for 47 years. You know everything you need to know about him. 


how can that be true when he just became a communist socialist this year?

are you saying you reject that categorization of him?
9/24/20 9:32 AM
3/13/18
Posts: 7841

Ummm- it’s trump and his cultists that are now claiming Biden will perform well in the debates. Trump went against his handlers advice in constantly trying to paint joe as a drooling senior. Now they (including trump) are saying Biden should win based on experience, etc. 
 

trump land knows they painted themselves in a corner and an otherwise acceptable performance by Biden will now be a tremendous bigly huge win

9/24/20 9:33 AM
6/26/06
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Trump shouldn’t be on insult mode in debate .  Kind and calm side would help

biden’s camp should have him go more centrist and law and order

9/24/20 9:58 AM
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Al Cappucino - 
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Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

Biden has been in Politics for 47 years. You know everything you need to know about him. 


how can that be true when he just became a communist socialist this year?

are you saying you reject that categorization of him?

No fook nutz he is saying Joe Biden has been in politics for 47 years and has done little to nothing for the people during that time. So why in the hell anyone would think that if he wins the next four years will be any different. 

Case in point; dude was Vice President for 8 years! The only thing he did that had any substance to it during that time is hop on a plane after the election to fly over to Ukraine to bail out his fooked up cokehead of a son........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I almost forgot the other thing he is most remembered for........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sniffing little kids that were unfortunate enough to come within 10 ft of him! 

9/24/20 10:15 AM
5/22/05
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Steve4192 -
VirusHoax - 
Steve4192 - 
Bill Mahoney - 

Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

How many voters do you think actually understand issues and policy positions?

Hint: it's a TINY minority. Most people vote for the person that made the biggest impression on them, or who does something memorable. That's why incumbents almost always win, despite their constituents being dissatisfied with their performance. It's also why so many spouses and children of long-time incumbents cruise to victory after that incumbent retires/dies. They vote for that familiar name, not policies.

It's also why obviously charismatic candidates win votes over boring, staid, technocrats. It's why so many of the same people in flyover country who voted for Obama in 2008/12 voted for Trump in 2016, despite them being polar opposites in almost every way. They voted for charismatic candidate that was foremost in their minds.

Trump's greatest strength is his charisma and making an impression on everyone who sees him and being memorable. That helps him win votes. Will it be enough? Who knows. We'll find out in a few weeks.

Trump's charisma only seems to work with his white lower middle base. We will see if that's enough for him to win. 

9/24/20 10:23 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 52225
The_Pundits_Ghost - 

Ummm- it’s trump and his cultists that are now claiming Biden will perform well in the debates. Trump went against his handlers advice in constantly trying to paint joe as a drooling senior. Now they (including trump) are saying Biden should win based on experience, etc. 
 

trump land knows they painted themselves in a corner and an otherwise acceptable performance by Biden will now be a tremendous bigly huge win


"drooling senior" may be a bit of hyperbola.  However, if you have been paying attention to Biden's speeches and don't see he is in serious cognitive decline since the start of his campaign, you have your head in the sand.  And that's not even a knock on Biden.  Most people don't realize he's already had two brain anuerisms and major brain surgery.  It's not exactly conspiracy theory at this point to claim Joe might be losing it.

9/24/20 10:41 AM
6/1/07
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banco - 
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Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

How many voters do you think actually understand issues and policy positions?

Hint: it's a TINY minority. Most people vote for the person that made the biggest impression on them, or who does something memorable. That's why incumbents almost always win, despite their constituents being dissatisfied with their performance. It's also why so many spouses and children of long-time incumbents cruise to victory after that incumbent retires/dies. They vote for that familiar name, not policies.

It's also why obviously charismatic candidates win votes over boring, staid, technocrats. It's why so many of the same people in flyover country who voted for Obama in 2008/12 voted for Trump in 2016, despite them being polar opposites in almost every way. They voted for charismatic candidate that was foremost in their minds.

Trump's greatest strength is his charisma and making an impression on everyone who sees him and being memorable. That helps him win votes. Will it be enough? Who knows. We'll find out in a few weeks.

Trump's charisma only seems to work with his white lower middle base. We will see if that's enough for him to win. 


The notion that Trump only appeals to poor uneducated white deplorables is a myth. He outperformed Mittens and McCain among Blacks and Hispanics. Trump voters also had a (marginally) higher median income than Clinton voters. He has basically the same base as every other Republican president since Reagan.

The only difference between him and other recent candidates is that he got higher turnout among key demographics in key battleground states, while getting more polarized results than Mittens/McCain in deep red/blue states (he outperformed them in deep red states and massively underperformed them in deep blue states). His entire popular vote 'loss' can be attributed to him getting absolutely fucking crushed in California. He lost California by nearly 4MM votes while winning the rest of America by 1MM votes.
9/24/20 11:11 AM
6/30/07
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Its, like always, an attempt to tell people what to think. I was actually pretty surprised at how many people have exactly zero plans on actually watching the debates. The main reasons I've heard pretty much mirror what the media has been telling them... anything Trump says will be a lie, Biden is sharp as a tack, nothing will change my mind and I'll just get too upset watching, blah blah blah.

It's scary actually.

9/24/20 11:19 AM
1/19/04
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My very libtard fam has zero clue that Biden is suffering from dementia/Alzheimer’s. Zero 

9/24/20 11:24 AM
1/1/01
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The thing is, if he manages to get his own name right, the leftist media will proclaim is the greatest debater of all time.
9/24/20 11:34 AM
4/3/20
Posts: 1711
pm1964 - The thing is, if he manages to get his own name right, the leftist media will proclaim is the greatest debater of all time.

well, in their defense, they are probably doing things like watching biden's town hall where he answered questions articulately and in depth, rather than reading right wing blogs and bro diagnoses.
9/24/20 12:31 PM
1/1/01
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Trump mearly needs to say one word.."Hunter"
9/24/20 12:46 PM
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Steve4192 - 
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Steve4192 - 
Bill Mahoney - 

Most the media will SAY that Biden won the debates yes. But he will not win the debates.
It's like election night. Trump will won & most the media will say "too close to call- we need to get more of mail in votes and there have been some accusations of voter suppression in key states that we gotta clear up before we play trucks victory speech."
Then they'll recount votes until they have enough to beat trump.
They will declare Biden the winner. Promise.
That's even if he asks u to vote him to congress again or shits himself


^ This

They said Hillary wiped the floor with him after every one of their debates, but all anyone remembers of those debates is Trump's one liners. Trump CLEARLY won those debates in terms of memorable moments, yet the press unanimously said he failed miserably. The same will happen with Biden.

However, I do think there is reason to be concerned in the Trump camp. They have set the bar RIDICULOUSLY low for Biden in terms of what people expect out him. If he is anything short of a total fucking disaster, he will exceed expectations. That could be a problem, as people might start questioning whether the swiss-cheese brain dementia Joe narrative being pushed by the Trump campaign holds up, and might lead to backlash if fair-minded people judge it to be bullshit.

absolutely. who needs a depth of understanding of issues and a coherent policy when people remember one liners and that's what matters.

#trumpnation

How many voters do you think actually understand issues and policy positions?

Hint: it's a TINY minority. Most people vote for the person that made the biggest impression on them, or who does something memorable. That's why incumbents almost always win, despite their constituents being dissatisfied with their performance. It's also why so many spouses and children of long-time incumbents cruise to victory after that incumbent retires/dies. They vote for that familiar name, not policies.

It's also why obviously charismatic candidates win votes over boring, staid, technocrats. It's why so many of the same people in flyover country who voted for Obama in 2008/12 voted for Trump in 2016, despite them being polar opposites in almost every way. They voted for charismatic candidate that was foremost in their minds.

Trump's greatest strength is his charisma and making an impression on everyone who sees him and being memorable. That helps him win votes. Will it be enough? Who knows. We'll find out in a few weeks.

Trump's charisma only seems to work with his white lower middle base. We will see if that's enough for him to win. 


The notion that Trump only appeals to poor uneducated white deplorables is a myth. He outperformed Mittens and McCain among Blacks and Hispanics. Trump voters also had a (marginally) higher median income than Clinton voters. He has basically the same base as every other Republican president since Reagan.

The only difference between him and other recent candidates is that he got higher turnout among key demographics in key battleground states, while getting more polarized results than Mittens/McCain in deep red/blue states (he outperformed them in deep red states and massively underperformed them in deep blue states). His entire popular vote 'loss' can be attributed to him getting absolutely fucking crushed in California. He lost California by nearly 4MM votes while winning the rest of America by 1MM votes.

^^This.

Also, it's always funny that the Left likes to peg working c+lass people as "voters who are not college educated" who support Trump, but when they point to support for them for whatever of their own policies, they become salt-of-the-earth "Blue Collar Voters".

9/24/20 1:03 PM
4/3/20
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meanwhile, back in reality, level of education has always been a common way to stratify the electorate.
Edited: 9/24/20 1:42 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 4012

Anyone know where I can get odds on Biden falling asleep in the debate? Or maybe pissing himself? Falling down? Anything? What about dying?
He's on borrowed time already. Has to be like 1% that he actually keels over during an actual debate.
I mean I'm sure his questions will be.
"What do u think your best quality is?"
Or
"Why do u think trump is such a bad person?"
But for Biden to handle even a softball question he actually still needs to hear and understand the question.
If I was Trump I'd just confuse him right out the gate
"My opponents hasn't once said anything about Doctor Evils demands From the moon and the people deserve an answer!"
Biden would think
"Who? What's he talking about? What's doctor evil? I don't wanna talk about what I don't understand but they all think my minds going so if I don't I'll get yelled at by kamala... who's doctor evil? (All this as he stammers and sweats) is that the korean?
Was it Korea they told me not to talk about? Or China? I think it's Korea so I can talk on China. I got it."
Then he'll say something like
"Trump only brings up China as a deflection from Russia"
And as trump laughs Biden will think "I messed that up - I gotta cover fast."
And he's go "but I've said before... you know the thing...... I'm against the plans for the moon from mister evil ..I mean cmon man."
Election over.
I should really be in politics

9/24/20 1:37 PM
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But yeah Joe is gonna do great

9/24/20 7:34 PM
11/9/10
Posts: 73033

If Trump is prepped enough to call out his lies unlike Paul Ryan he will look terrible. Biden was full of shit lied constantly in that debate and Ryan never called him on it.