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2/20/20 10:53 AM
4/1/10
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"I can’t think of a better way that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. "

 

2/20/20 10:54 AM
6/13/03
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2/20/20 10:54 AM
3/18/02
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tiny man made a decent point

2/20/20 10:55 AM
1/1/01
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That was the moment he realized he's not a democrat.

2/20/20 10:56 AM
6/13/03
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He even called Bernie a commie as a cherry on top

2/20/20 10:56 AM
11/17/10
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What was the conversation or subject matter he was referring to?

 

I didnt watch

2/20/20 10:57 AM
4/1/10
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Bloomber's presence exposed the other candidates ignorance and how far left the Democrats have shifted.

The NDAs are a legally binding agreement between two parties, Bloomberg has no say in whether they abide by them. I have several NDAs (not from sexual harrassment suits or my wrong doing), and my previous employer can not relive me or my counterparty from them.

The whole "you didn't make your money, your workers made your money" is absurd.

The dems have no shot.

They are all hoping for a brokered convention and winning on the second ballot with the super delegates. Bernie bros will all stay home and not vote.

And why the fuck hasn't Warren been implored to step down? She has no chance of winning, yet is up there verbally assaulting all the other candidates. If they want to beat Trump, they have to get behind a candidate and end this Royal Rumble.

2/20/20 10:57 AM
10/15/13
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Image result for bloomberg i love you donald

Edited: 2/20/20 10:59 AM
4/1/10
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In Limbo - 

 

What was the conversation or subject matter he was referring to?

 

I didnt watch

 

They were trashing him, claimed he didn't make his money, his workers did. They talked about massive corporate tax hikes and putting unions and workers on boards of directors, and taxing the wealthy into oblivion.  I think it was Warren who went on about getting all the union head sin the white house in the first 100 days. Here was Bloomberg's entire quote in response:

 


"I can’t think of a better way that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. We’re not gonna throw out capitalism. We tried that, other countries tried that, it was called communism and it just didn’t work."

Edited: 2/20/20 11:03 AM
1/1/01
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Zned - 

Bloomber's presence exposed the other candidates ignorance and how far left the Democrats have shifted.

The NDAs are a legally binding agreement between two parties, Bloomberg has no say in whether they abide by them. I have several NDAs (not from sexual harrassment suits or my wrong doing), and my previous employer can not relive me or my counterparty from them.

The whole "you didn't make your money, your workers made your money" is absurd.

The dems have no shot.

They are all hoping for a brokered convention and winning on the second ballot with the super delegates. Bernie bros will all stay home and not vote.

And why the fuck hasn't Warren been implored to step down? She has no chance of winning, yet is up there verbally assaulting all the other candidates. If they want to beat Trump, they have to get behind a candidate and end this Royal Rumble.

 

Yes, but it made him spend his speaking time running defense.  It was a really bad look to those watching the debates.  His first time on the debate stage and he uses it to say hes sorry for stop and frisk (I made a mistake), that he won't release the women from the NDA's (I paid them to stop talking about my sexual assault) and why he cant release his taxes yet (I'm like Trump).

 

  It made him look weak and unprepared as the other candidates who have already paid their dues used him as target practice.

2/20/20 11:03 AM
10/17/08
Posts: 14897
Bloomberg did make a good point. A very obvious point that everyone with a brain can see for themselves.

Agreed Warren needs to go away. She's a shrill harpy that is very unlikable. Annoying even.
2/20/20 11:05 AM
7/15/02
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He’s right about this and a few other things, but the Dems have moved so far to the left that even being against communism is considered far right to them. 

2/20/20 11:08 AM
4/13/12
Posts: 32729

I thought Bloomberg let Warren take a giant dump on his chest; it was a Cleveland Steamer of the frirst degree.

Agreed with almost everything he said though.

2/20/20 11:09 AM
1/1/01
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johnsonbarr - Bloomberg did make a good point. A very obvious point that everyone with a brain can see for themselves.

Agreed Warren needs to go away. She's a shrill harpy that is very unlikable. Annoying even.

2/20/20 11:12 AM
5/30/03
Posts: 41972

"have several NDAs (not from sexual harrassment suits or my wrong doing), and my previous employer can not relive me or my counterparty from them."

 

What does that mean 

2/20/20 11:15 AM
3/18/02
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johnsonbarr - Bloomberg did make a good point. A very obvious point that everyone with a brain can see for themselves.

Agreed Warren needs to go away. She's a shrill harpy that is very unlikable. Annoying even.

the fake MSM is talking like Warren crushed everyone during the debate lol

maybe theyre waivering on mini mike

they just dont know what to do.  Full blown TDS induced panic 

2/20/20 11:20 AM
5/11/08
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Zned -
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What was the conversation or subject matter he was referring to?

 

I didnt watch

 

They were trashing him, claimed he didn't make his money, his workers did. They talked about massive corporate tax hikes and putting unions and workers on boards of directors, and taxing the wealthy into oblivion.  I think it was Warren who went on about getting all the union head sin the white house in the first 100 days. Here was Bloomberg's entire quote in response:

 


"I can’t think of a better way that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. We’re not gonna throw out capitalism. We tried that, other countries tried that, it was called communism and it just didn’t work."

I absolutely hate the argument that capitalists didn't earn their money and that their employees created all the wealth for them. The idiots who use that argument have no appreciation for the value of risk taking. 

2/20/20 11:22 AM
10/15/13
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pbody -
Zned -
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What was the conversation or subject matter he was referring to?

 

I didnt watch

 

They were trashing him, claimed he didn't make his money, his workers did. They talked about massive corporate tax hikes and putting unions and workers on boards of directors, and taxing the wealthy into oblivion.  I think it was Warren who went on about getting all the union head sin the white house in the first 100 days. Here was Bloomberg's entire quote in response:

 


"I can’t think of a better way that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. We’re not gonna throw out capitalism. We tried that, other countries tried that, it was called communism and it just didn’t work."

I absolutely hate the argument that capitalists didn't earn their money and that their employees created all the wealth for them. The idiots who use that argument have no appreciation for the value of risk taking. 

This. 

2/20/20 11:29 AM
1/1/01
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Al Cappucino -
pbody -
Zned -
In Limbo - 

 

What was the conversation or subject matter he was referring to?

 

I didnt watch

 

They were trashing him, claimed he didn't make his money, his workers did. They talked about massive corporate tax hikes and putting unions and workers on boards of directors, and taxing the wealthy into oblivion.  I think it was Warren who went on about getting all the union head sin the white house in the first 100 days. Here was Bloomberg's entire quote in response:

 


"I can’t think of a better way that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. We’re not gonna throw out capitalism. We tried that, other countries tried that, it was called communism and it just didn’t work."

I absolutely hate the argument that capitalists didn't earn their money and that their employees created all the wealth for them. The idiots who use that argument have no appreciation for the value of risk taking. 

This. 

Totally

2/20/20 11:30 AM
4/1/10
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EFM - 

I thought Bloomberg let Warren take a giant dump on his chest; it was a Cleveland Steamer of the frirst degree.

Agreed with almost everything he said though.


I wouldn't claim he performed well, but he was straight forward, and having him there on the stage really illustrated how far left the other candidates are, are how badly they are pandering to the socialist faction of the party.

Kobuchar sounded like she was going to start crying.

Warren wines and sounds like she is pleading all the time.

Sanders is Sanders.

Biden is sad to watch, you can see him losing his brain function, he stayed in the game too long, he should have settled for writing another book and hitting the CNN/MSNBC circuit. He did let out a few good, "I know that guy" and "c'mon man"s.

Buttigieg doesn't seem to offer anything at all.

It is a really weak field.

2/20/20 11:31 AM
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Bloomberg is an unlikable douchebag with too much money and too much baggage.
He needs to fill either Pete's gaping asshole or Liz's dusty cooter with all his money
2/20/20 11:32 AM
3/21/12
Posts: 13155
pbody - 
Zned -
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What was the conversation or subject matter he was referring to?

 

I didnt watch

 

They were trashing him, claimed he didn't make his money, his workers did. They talked about massive corporate tax hikes and putting unions and workers on boards of directors, and taxing the wealthy into oblivion.  I think it was Warren who went on about getting all the union head sin the white house in the first 100 days. Here was Bloomberg's entire quote in response:

 


"I can’t think of a better way that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. We’re not gonna throw out capitalism. We tried that, other countries tried that, it was called communism and it just didn’t work."

I absolutely hate the argument that capitalists didn't earn their money and that their employees created all the wealth for them. The idiots who use that argument have no appreciation for the value of risk taking. 


It's a dumb argument but you don't become a Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates on talent alone. There has to be anti-competitive practices to obtain that kind of wealth. If capitalism is functioning properly your profit margin eventually gets eaten by new entrants to the markets you serve.
Edited: 2/20/20 11:44 AM
4/1/10
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The Maestro - 

"have several NDAs (not from sexual harrassment suits or my wrong doing), and my previous employer can not relive me or my counterparty from them."

 

What does that mean 

 

I have been involved in legal proceedings. Afterwards, when everything is settled, the parties all agreed to sign NDAs. Non-disclosure agreements. Within those NDAs it is stated that if either party discloses any information about the situation and the proceedings they can be held acocuntable legally.

 

They aren't bad.

One of mine was due to a long drawn out series of lawsuits. When the settlements cam eI demanded NDAs (they would have been there anyway) because I wasn't material to any wrongdoing and didn't want my career tarnished. The firms involved can't release me from it, neither can they release the hedge fund manager on the other end. In my NDAs with firms I worked with, the whole idea of releasing anyone from NDAs is silly. The agreements were reached, and the papers signed. It is over.

What Warren is saying is that there have been sexual harrassment lawsuits and discrimination lawsuits against Bloomberg LLP. She wants him to "release" the women from the NDAs without risk of losing their settlements. This is absurd. Those cases are going to happen, Bloomberg is a huge multinational corporation. The NDAs were agreed upon when the resolutions to the situations were agreed by all parties.

 

Here is a great real life example:

I know of a owman who was accused of professional impropriety. It was bad what she did. In retaliation she filed discrimination complaints. In the end they settled on a cash settlement which went undiclosed, and instead of her losing her licenses they agreed to a very minor suspension of her licenses. For the suspension they agreed on a ver minor infraction where "no one admitted guilt". Once this was all agreed upon and settled, everyone involved signed nondisclosure agreements. This protects everyone involved, not just the firm or the greedy billionaire CEO.

 

Another great example:

 

Many years ago I was subpoenaed in a sexual harrassment case. It was claimed that I was a witness. I had no skin in the game and didn't care either way, but, I wasn't a witness. I didn't see or hear anything. Did it happen? I don't know, but I certainly didn't witness anything. I was deposed and said I didn't see anything.

When the settlement was reached everyone signed NDAs.

That NDA protects me and other people who got dragged into the mess. No one can go tell "there side of the story" and include me and put me at risk.

If it was even in his power, and Bloomberg did as Warren suggested, he would be screwing lots of people like me, who got dragged into messes they had nothing to do with.

2/20/20 11:35 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 48435

The problem with Bloomberg isn't that he's rich.   It's that he is completely arrogant about it and thinks he doesn't need stated policy or likeability.  He thinks he can literally buy his way into office and doesn't even try to hide that is what he is doing.  I doubt he comes back for another debate.

2/20/20 11:42 AM
2/11/03
Posts: 40293

Honestly im really sad at how far left and bad the candidates looked yesterday.