Member Since: 4/20/11
COVID-19 will go down as the largest, costliest, and most bizarre overreaction in American history.
This is a highly contagious, though relatively mild flu with a 99.30% survivability rate.
Crippling the economy is a laughable and shocking response to something so mild.
This isn't the Spanish flu. There was a World War going on during that outbreak. They barely even knew what they were dealing with. They barely understood germs or how they spread. Social distancing wasn't feasible even if they thought to do it.They barely had any treatment modalities. They barely had any medicines. They could barely communicate to society broadly with any immediacy due to primitive communication methods at that time. We've made drastic strides in the past 100 years.
There are many deadly viruses around us in the world. The old and infirm are always more at risk of death. It's sad but it's a fact of life - unless you view the world through the lens of a sheltered child with no understanding of reality.
Are people not aware that up to 50,000,000 people get the generic flu in the US - PER YEAR? Or that roughly 50,000 people die from the flu each year? Why doesn't the media cover the spread of the generic flu each year in vivid detail? People wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING without the fear of death. OMG, the sky is falling!!!
Additionally the "ground zero" outbreak area ALWAYS has a high rate of death. This is because the most malignant strains of the virus kill - but then those hosts can't be in society spreading it once they are dead. So the most virulent, deadly strains die out quicker and the moderate strains spread more widely, people catch it, gain an immunity, and move on with life. Not to mention in modern society there are thousands of researchers learning how to treat it better with each passing day once it's on their radar.
There are studies indicating that the majority of infected people are completely asymptomatic or just have mild flu-like symptoms. Just like ANY OTHER flu.
Rhetorically every person I have seen on the news who has had COVID said that they were asymptomatic or had generic flu like symptoms - then it passed within a few days. Just like any other flu.
This flu has probably been on American shores since December but it was not detected. Many people probably had it and just assumed they had an ordinary flu. They just toughed it out and were fine within days.
People have a very tenuous grasp upon statistics and true infection rates. Now that they are testing for it more frequently it will seem like infection rates are EXPLODING. The media will ride this hype train as much as they can.
In truth many, many more people than the official statistics show have probably had this and it just passed with barely a mention.They didn't run to the emergency room, never got tested, etc.
Not to mention if you could test every person and know who had it your relatively fatality percentage goes WAY down to be (relatively) mundane levels.
There's great concern about the necessity of ventilators. However I've heard that ventilators are needed in very few cases - and there are speculations that they barely provide any benefit anyway.
Then there's the issue of the healthcare system being overwhelmed. Well since this is the outbreak du jour every person who thinks they have it is running to the hospital. Anyone the government learns about who has it is basically being forced to go to the hospital. Whereas if this was treated more like a regular flu situation people just stay home from work for a few days like normal. If the media wasn't portraying this as if everyone was going to die it would be barely an issue.
Also since this is on everyone's radar tons of resources are going to be diverted to supply for the healthcare system to treat as many patients as possible.
Strange things are afoot. Politically, economically, socially, etc.
Trump can't say this is not as big of an issue as the media is making it out to be. He can't come out and say that the sky isn't falling. He would be pilloried for it.
Each liberal I've spoken to about this seems oh-so-ready to try to pin this on Trump. As if he was not prepared for it or he was supposed to stop it. Or that he lied about it? What the fuck are these people on about? Is Trump supposed to be some demi-god superhero who rescues the world all of a sudden?
BIll DeBlasio is trying to shut everything down in NYC. Even the governor who I loathe, Andrew Cuomo, responded to him in the media basically saying "dude, wtf are you talking about?" As someone mentioned in another thread there are political factors to such decisions. DeBlasio bungled a snowplow situation (along with almost everything else) so little weasels like him use these "end of world" type situations to try to assert themselves as some sort of savior. He's a pathetic little cretin and so are the other politicians like him across the country.
Not to mention some segments in society (typically the sky is falling, climate change types) are acting like acknowledging the truth about COVID-19 being relatively similar to the generic flu is like saying Santa Claus isn't real. I've spoken to a few of these types and they basically act like you're the anti-Christ for such a suggestion. I had one girl block my number when I expressed my exasperation about the response. She said she wanted nothing to do with someone who doesn't appreciate the hysteria the media fed to her.
American isn't Italy. Italy has one of the oldest societies on Earth - which means more people at risk. They have huge swaths of agrarian countryside. They aren't nearly as modern as America. They don't have our capabilities. They have a greater transmission rate due to their cultural practices of kissing each other on the cheeks, etc.
The other huge issue is that this creates a precedent for future outbreaks which is very dangerous. Are we going to shut down the global economy each time this happens? Blow trillions in tax payer dollars? Create massive unemployment for you and your neighbors? Cripple people's 401k's?
The truth is that this hysterical reaction will have a very real cost which will largely be economic. Huge unemployment for people who had their paycheck-to-paycheck blue collar jobs just a few weeks ago.401k's destroyed. Old people losing their jobs (our parents) who will not be able to get back into the workforce as they're replaced by younger, cheaper employees.
Tell old and immuncompromised people to stay home and work remotely. You can't shut down the entire economy over this. It's a horrific overreaction that is causing enormous harm to an enormous number of people.
I am going to make a prediction that yes, people will die from this. It's tragic. However people die from a LOT of things. A LOT of viruses. A LOT of different strains of flu.
However the sky isn't going to fall. This isn't going to be the Spanish flu part deux. This is going to pass without too much health calamity.
Yet there's no win. Liberals will claim Trump didn't do enough to save people's lives. Liberal mayors like DeBlasio will say "Look at me, I saved you!" for shutting down NYC. The economy will suffer severely due to the overreaction.
Lastly - we aren't globally "all in this together." Russia, China, Iran, etc, don't give a fuck about our long term success.