Can you imagine how fucking taxing talking for 15+goddamn hours a week year in year out would be plus everything else he has going on? Of course he’s phoning it in atbthis point. What else is there to talk about? How much dead air can you fill before you’re not nearly as excited about it as you used to be. At a certain point the only thing that’s going to keep you moving is debt or a giant payday and fortunately for him joe seems to be doing pretty well money-wise.