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8/8/18 10:44 AM
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is asking Trump to help after the horrible violence this past weekend. You can't make this shit up..

White House Brief

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Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel recently declared the city a "Trump-free zone."

But now a Chicago Democrat is begging for President Trump's help following horrific violence over the weekend. Liberals have FAILED Chicago, and the people are starting to realize it.

 
Liberals Have FAILED Chicago — Dem Begs for Trump's Help!

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel recently declared the city a "Trump-free zone." But now a Chicago Democrat is begging for President Trump's help following horrific violence over the weekend. Liberals have FAILED Chicago, and the people are starting to realize it.

Posted by White House Brief on Tuesday, August 7, 2018

 

8/8/18 10:52 AM
2/4/07
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Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?
8/8/18 10:56 AM
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Trump will fix it and it won't even be very hard or take very long.

8/8/18 10:58 AM
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Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

100% correct

8/8/18 11:06 AM
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Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Send the military. Martial law

Edited: 8/8/18 11:07 AM
6/10/08
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Rahm will watch every black person on the south and west sides die before he asks Trump for anything. 

 

If he did did I would love to see Trump put on a penis shaped ring and make Rahm kiss it and beg for help. 

8/8/18 11:09 AM
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Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Rudy cleaned up NYC

it takes hard work, and it’s not always pretty or PC but NYC is one of the safest cleanest cities of its size 

8/8/18 11:10 AM
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Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Jobs ..... preferably far away from their homes.

Despite the nation having a sub-4% unemployment rate and black unemployment being near historic lows in the mid-6% range, young black men on the south and west side of Chicago have an unemployment rate in the mid-40% range. Trump needs to start harassing congress to pass an infrastructure bill, and make part of it a jobs program to get young inner city men away from their cesspool neighborhoods and hoodlum friends and put them work fixing highways and bridges, building flood walls, clearing deadwood from forests, and other public works. Kind of like the Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps from the New Deal. Teach those dudes some work ethic and job skills and get them away from their comfort zones where it's easier to sling drugs and act hard than it is to get a job and work hard.
8/8/18 11:23 AM
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"jobs" fixing violence in the ghetto is a long term dream. It's a worthy dream, but is going to take a while, because too many people in the ghetto currently don't actually want jobs. They want to do as little as possible and get free money when available, which is considered permissible if not positive in their current culture.

The reality is that extra policing and empowering the police to enforce the law more effectively DOES reduce crime and violence. These people may hate and sometimes want to target police, but they are actually scared of police. Increased police presence and enforcement DOES beat back crime for as long as it is kept up, and this allows the people in the ghetto who actually want education and want to get ahead, and these people DO exist, to get to and from doing what they need to do to improve themselves and their neighborhoods and culture safely. We want the parents in the inner city who care to be able to do what they need to do to make better people.
8/8/18 11:24 AM
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The moment Trump does anything, cries of racism will echo throughout the democrat party

8/8/18 11:26 AM
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GentileLarryDavid -
Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Not true.  It is likely a minority of the people that want that. 

 

To stop the violence you need to solve the murders and prosecute the offenders.  Right now there is little to no consequences for taking a life in Chicago.  The good people see this and know that the police cannot protect them even if they want to do the right thing.  

 

So basically you need more racist police doing racist stuff. 

Unfortunately this is true, you have to proactively profile and for every 10 cars that are pulled over in these neighborhoods you will find a weapon in 7 of them. 

The other 3 are going to have to deal eith the hassle if they want their kids to be safe.

You don’t go fishing in a ditch, you fish where the fish live, the same goes for policing.

8/8/18 11:32 AM
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sadic1 - "jobs" fixing violence in the ghetto is a long term dream. It's a worthy dream, but is going to take a while, because too many people in the ghetto currently don't actually want jobs. They want to do as little as possible and get free money when available, which is considered permissible if not positive in their current culture.

The reality is that extra policing and empowering the police to enforce the law more effectively DOES reduce crime and violence. These people may hate and sometimes want to target police, but they are actually scared of police. Increased police presence and enforcement DOES beat back crime for as long as it is kept up, and this allows the people in the ghetto who actually want education and want to get ahead, and these people DO exist, to get to and from doing what they need to do to improve themselves and their neighborhoods and culture safely. We want the parents in the inner city who care to be able to do what they need to do to make better people.

I agree that policing is the short-term fix to the fix for the symptoms (shootings), but you need to combine that with something addresses the long-term problem (poverty and hopelessness).

As for how to get them to take those jobs, tie their benefits to participation in the jobs program. No work, no free shit (with exceptions made for those who genuinely can't work). The only way to fix the culture IMO is to get them out of the culture and expose them to the wider world, while training them to become useful members of society. Heck, I'd even extend it to non-violent offenders in prison. Go to work, learn some life skills outside of crime college, and get your sentence reduced/commuted.
8/8/18 11:33 AM
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Jack Carter -

The moment Trump does anything, cries of racism will echo throughout the democrat party

Trump will do nothing because he is racist

8/8/18 11:49 AM
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Call in the Guard. Clear the ghettos block by block, government housing unit by government housing unit.  Anyone wearing gang colors or having gang tattoos gets put down - shoot on sight.  Anyone with prior felonies found with weapons or drugs gets put down.  Anyone carrying a weapon illegally, gets put down.  Make a pit stop at the prison, put them ALL down too.  Anyone seen committing a violent crime, or threatening violenece to commit a crime - out you go.  Once we are done with Chicago, we can apply the lessons learned to every other major city in the country.  Rinse and repeat.

 

8/8/18 11:57 AM
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Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Paging NiteCrawler.... Please report to thread

8/8/18 12:05 PM
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Jack Carter - 

The moment Trump does anything, cries of racism will echo throughout the democrat party


Absolutely. The long term goal should be jobs and work ethic as suggested earlier in this thread, but the short term fix is empower the police and send in the military if required.

Both would end up in a shitstorm of race cards.

I could see Trump doing it as it's the only way, and he would likely be fine taking the flack from it. But if the people there want the violence to stop, they are going to have to support the measures that it will take to stop it.
8/8/18 12:07 PM
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i know there is an issue with mas sincarceration over non violent charges

 

however, it is safe to say, that there are thousands of thugs in Chicago that need to be locked up, away from society

 

there is no hope with many, certain individuals and progressives need to realize they cannot "save" everyone

 

lock them up and start fresh

8/8/18 12:08 PM
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If the major alllows even more BLM protests to block roads preventing people from going to work, employers are sure to want to relocate to Chicago

8/8/18 12:12 PM
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androb -
Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Rudy cleaned up NYC

it takes hard work, and it’s not always pretty or PC but NYC is one of the safest cleanest cities of its size 

No way the shit Rudy pulled to clean up NY would fly in todays political climate.

Part of the reason he was successful in NY was aggressive policing.  100% not going to happen now in Chicago.

8/8/18 12:12 PM
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10er 10ing -

Call in the Guard. Clear the ghettos block by block, government housing unit by government housing unit.  Anyone wearing gang colors or having gang tattoos gets put down - shoot on sight.  Anyone with prior felonies found with weapons or drugs gets put down.  Anyone carrying a weapon illegally, gets put down.  Make a pit stop at the prison, put them ALL down too.  Anyone seen committing a violent crime, or threatening violenece to commit a crime - out you go.  Once we are done with Chicago, we can apply the lessons learned to every other major city in the country.  Rinse and repeat.

 

Isn't this the same asshole who, when presented with the possibility of the guard coming in, wanted to petition NATO to come in and protect the city from suck jack booted tactics?

 

 

How? Honestly, I ask how the people voted this ass clown into office? 

8/8/18 12:15 PM
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10er 10ing -

Call in the Guard. Clear the ghettos block by block, government housing unit by government housing unit.  Anyone wearing gang colors or having gang tattoos gets put down - shoot on sight.  Anyone with prior felonies found with weapons or drugs gets put down.  Anyone carrying a weapon illegally, gets put down.  Make a pit stop at the prison, put them ALL down too.  Anyone seen committing a violent crime, or threatening violenece to commit a crime - out you go.  Once we are done with Chicago, we can apply the lessons learned to every other major city in the country.  Rinse and repeat.

 

This strikes me as decidedly un-American behavior.  I’m not saying it wouldn’t work but while we’re being ridiculous why not just use a tactical nuke?

8/8/18 12:37 PM
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CuddleBug - 

Trump will fix it and it won't even be very hard or take very long.


Genuine laugh....

8/8/18 12:50 PM
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MountainMedic -
10er 10ing -

Call in the Guard. Clear the ghettos block by block, government housing unit by government housing unit.  Anyone wearing gang colors or having gang tattoos gets put down - shoot on sight.  Anyone with prior felonies found with weapons or drugs gets put down.  Anyone carrying a weapon illegally, gets put down.  Make a pit stop at the prison, put them ALL down too.  Anyone seen committing a violent crime, or threatening violenece to commit a crime - out you go.  Once we are done with Chicago, we can apply the lessons learned to every other major city in the country.  Rinse and repeat.

 

Isn't this the same asshole who, when presented with the possibility of the guard coming in, wanted to petition NATO to come in and protect the city from suck jack booted tactics?

 

 

How? Honestly, I ask how the people voted this ass clown into office? 

I do not like Rahm at all,  but he is the best of the candidates .  The other choices are dramatically worse 

8/8/18 1:06 PM
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androb - 
Sandy Pantz - Realistically, what can be done to fix Chicago? The people who live in lawless areas want to remain lawless. They hate the police, won't "snitch" on each other, and think any attempt to make things safe is racism. So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Rudy cleaned up NYC

it takes hard work, and it’s not always pretty or PC but NYC is one of the safest cleanest cities of its size 


I think you mean the CIA did.
8/8/18 1:13 PM
7/2/09
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Just nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.