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3 days ago
9/13/08
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The great leap forward was basically an intentional culling of 50 million people. They have literal concentration camps in existence with millions of Muslims in them TODAY.

 

Is a spade a spade? Is China literally worse than the Nazis, and if so how can we allow them to exist unbidden in good conscience? If you've ever though I would have acted sooner if I'd known and was alive when the holocaust was happening, what the fuck is your excuse?

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3/16/11
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No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

3 days ago
1/1/01
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China has nukes, bud.
3 days ago
9/13/08
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Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

A lot of people like to pretend that they would have done something about the Nazis purely because of the holocaust. A holocaust is occurring right now in China and no one gives a fuuuuuuck.

3 days ago
1/27/15
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Is Hong Kong the Poland of today?

3 days ago
6/13/04
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czwthemerph - 
Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

A lot of people like to pretend that they would have done something about the Nazis purely because of the holocaust. A holocaust is occurring right now in China and no one gives a fuuuuuuck.


Any evidence they are killing them?

3 days ago
3/16/11
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czwthemerph -
Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

A lot of people like to pretend that they would have done something about the Nazis purely because of the holocaust. A holocaust is occurring right now in China and no one gives a fuuuuuuck.

Oh yeah? Not me. Bad people are doing bad things on huge scales all over the world. The war in Yemen is by far the biggest humanitarian crises going on right and most people don’t even know about it. Such is life...

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4/26/13
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3 days ago
10/1/16
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Just pretend they're Palestinian and everyone will stop giving a shit about them. 

3 days ago
2/27/03
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DrOrloff - 

Is Hong Kong the Poland of today?


That will probably be taiwan
3 days ago
9/19/13
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China still owns slave labor in Africa.

 

 

 

In 2020.

3 days ago
4/13/12
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czwthemerph -

The great leap forward was basically an intentional culling of 50 million people. They have literal concentration camps in existence with millions of Muslims in them TODAY.

 

Is a spade a spade? Is China literally worse than the Nazis, and if so how can we allow them to exist unbidden in good conscience? If you've ever though I would have acted sooner if I'd known and was alive when the holocaust was happening, what the fuck is your excuse?

Uighur, please.

3 days ago
3/25/11
Posts: 336
Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

This. The "virtuous" story of WW2 is that the allies went after Hitler because of the holocaust. But that's not true. 

Like someone above said, if they push into Taiwan or keep threatening Indian territory then the world's hand will be forced. But world destabilizing war isn't going to be waged based on genocide no matter how just the cause. 

And in the nuclear era any war on that scale will escalate to pure horror for everyone. 

Add in the pandemic and global financial crisis, no world leaders have the plan or the stomach to do much about it unfortunately. 

3 days ago
10/25/07
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czwthemerph - 
Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

A lot of people like to pretend that they would have done something about the Nazis purely because of the holocaust. A holocaust is occurring right now in China and no one gives a fuuuuuuck.


Nikes bro, we gotta have our shoes from our favorite human rights preaching shoe company
3 days ago
5/16/08
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If they were rounding up Catholics or Christians, the West would pay more attention as well. Islam just isn't a big enough religion in first world countries other than being seen as a threat

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12/26/05
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China is close.

 

Hundreds of millions dead and currently have about a million slaves.  They abandoned traditional socialism when the economic failure of the Soviets was clear but kept the titles. It would be fair at this point to consider them fascist or national socialist.

This is why the socialists are generally morons.  One of the few cases we have seen communism persist instead of fall into economic ruin is the state that essentially morphed into fascism.

 

 

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2/4/17
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CavemanDave -

China is close.

 

Hundreds of millions dead and currently have about a million slaves.  They abandoned traditional socialism when the economic failure of the Soviets was clear but kept the titles. It would be fair at this point to consider them fascist or national socialist.

This is why the socialists are generally morons.  One of the few cases we have seen communism persist instead of fall into economic ruin is the state that essentially morphed into fascism.

 

 

Lenin, stalin etc spent years in Tsarist torture camps, and a lot of time working in the fields with the other poor. Ping spent 6 years in the fields, on his knees picking vegetables before he was let anywhere near power.

Hundreds of millions dead my fucking ass, more like hundreds of millions raised out of poverty. Does not scan as fascist to me.

But unfortunately you have a grain of truth in your arguments,  things have not gone according to plan in China. Tibet was a problem, now HK is becoming an even bigger one.

It is not up to the west to judge, no one in the west has the moral high ground to say shit. It is up to forces within the CCP to guide policy in a better direction.

If the west pushes to hard you will create a monster the likes of which history has never seen, never forget the Korean war.

3 days ago
1/1/01
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czwthemerph - 
Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

A lot of people like to pretend that they would have done something about the Nazis purely because of the holocaust. A holocaust is occurring right now in China and no one gives a fuuuuuuck.


True.

3 days ago
7/31/09
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CavemanDave -

China is close.

 

Hundreds of millions dead and currently have about a million slaves.  They abandoned traditional socialism when the economic failure of the Soviets was clear but kept the titles. It would be fair at this point to consider them fascist or national socialist.

This is why the socialists are generally morons.  One of the few cases we have seen communism persist instead of fall into economic ruin is the state that essentially morphed into fascism.

 

 

My supervisor recently visited China and loves them. Doesnt understand the distrust of China. Shes also one of those that hold very, very strong opinions on things she has no interest in....like all things politics. "I dont follow policitcs but Im very strongly against x, y and z. I just don't know why. I mean it feels mean to allow x, y and z to happen but i don't know why and I refuse to listen to the opposing argument unless it includes appeasement of my feelings."

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1/1/01
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Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

It’s ok to kill 10s of millions as long as you do it quietly in your own country?

3 days ago
9/13/08
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Suziwu -
CavemanDave -

China is close.

 

Hundreds of millions dead and currently have about a million slaves.  They abandoned traditional socialism when the economic failure of the Soviets was clear but kept the titles. It would be fair at this point to consider them fascist or national socialist.

This is why the socialists are generally morons.  One of the few cases we have seen communism persist instead of fall into economic ruin is the state that essentially morphed into fascism.

 

 

Lenin, stalin etc spent years in Tsarist torture camps, and a lot of time working in the fields with the other poor. Ping spent 6 years in the fields, on his knees picking vegetables before he was let anywhere near power.

Hundreds of millions dead my fucking ass, more like hundreds of millions raised out of poverty. Does not scan as fascist to me.

But unfortunately you have a grain of truth in your arguments,  things have not gone according to plan in China. Tibet was a problem, now HK is becoming an even bigger one.

It is not up to the west to judge, no one in the west has the moral high ground to say shit. It is up to forces within the CCP to guide policy in a better direction.

If the west pushes to hard you will create a monster the likes of which history has never seen, never forget the Korean war.

Absolutely, butt-fucking retarded describes everything you just said.

3 days ago
1/1/01
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Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

they conquered tibet. 

 

they conquered mongolia. 

 

they are looking for north korea to fall to invade. 

 

they illegally overthrew the hongkong government. 

 

they set up island fortresses in the south china sea. 

 

they own more ports than any other nation in the world. 

 

they are building military strength based off of stealing us tech.                                                                                              

 

 

 

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3/16/11
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yusul -
Pilgor the goat -

No one fought the Nazis because they were assholes, it was because they were storming across Europe in a blaze of lead and fire. Let me know when China’s doing that, and I’m in. 

they conquered tibet. 

 

they conquered mongolia. 

 

they are looking for north korea to fall to invade. 

 

they illegally overthrew the hongkong government. 

 

they set up island fortresses in the south china sea. 

 

they own more ports than any other nation in the world. 

 

they are building military strength based off of stealing us tech.                                                                                              

 

 

 

K, I’m in. Let’s go fry up some rice boys. 

3 days ago
1/1/01
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adam209 -

If they were rounding up Catholics or Christians, the West would pay more attention as well. Islam just isn't a big enough religion in first world countries other than being seen as a threat

they are rounding up christians and burning churches. but people in west want their nikes. new religion. 

3 days ago
9/1/04
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czwthemerph - 

The great leap forward was basically an intentional culling of 50 million people. They have literal concentration camps in existence with millions of Muslims in them TODAY.

 

Is a spade a spade? Is China literally worse than the Nazis, and if so how can we allow them to exist unbidden in good conscience? If you've ever though I would have acted sooner if I'd known and was alive when the holocaust was happening, what the fuck is your excuse?


I thought the Great Leap forward deaths were mostly incompetence?