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China bars U.S. military ships, aircraft from Hong Kong, sanctions U.S.-based NGOs

https://news.yahoo.com/1-china-suspends-u-military-091603390.html

BEIJING, Dec 2 (Reuters) - China on Monday banned U.S. military ships and aircraft from visiting Hong Kong and slapped sanctions on several U.S. non-government organisations for allegedly encouraging anti-government protesters in the city to commit violent acts.

The measures were a response to U.S. legislation passed last week supporting the protests which have rocked the Asian financial hub for six months. It said it had suspended taking requests for U.S. military visits indefinitely, and warned of further action to come.

"We urge the U.S. to correct the mistakes and stop interfering in our internal affairs. China will take further steps if necessary to uphold Hong Kong's stability and prosperity and China's sovereignty," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a news briefing in Beijing.

China last week promised it would issue "firm counter measures" after U.S. President Donald Trump signed into law the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, which supports anti-government protesters in Hong Kong and threatens China with sanctions for human rights abuses.

There are fears that the dispute over Hong Kong could impact efforts by Beijing and Washington to reach a preliminary deal to de-escalate a prolonged trade war between the world's two largest economies.

In more normal times, several U.S. naval ships visit Hong Kong annually, a rest-and-recreation tradition that dates back to the pre-1997 colonial era and one that Beijing allowed to continue after the handover from British to Chinese rule.

"We have a long track record of successful port visits to Hong Kong, and we expect that to continue," said a U.S. State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"False accusations of foreign interference" against the U.S. NGOs "are intended to distract from the legitimate concerns of Hongkongers," the official said.

Pentagon spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Dave Eastburn said port visits to Hong Kong and elsewhere around the world served as a useful programme to "provide liberty for our sailors and expand people-to-people ties with our hosts".

"With regard to the ongoing protests, we condemn the unjustified use of force and urge all sides to refrain from violence and engage in constructive dialogue," he said in a statement.

A U.S. defence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said China's move would not have an impact on U.S. military operations.

Visits have at times been refused amid broader tensions and two U.S. ships were denied access in August.

The USS Blue Ridge, the command ship of the Japan-based Seventh Fleet, stopped in Hong Kong in April – the last ship to visit before mass protests broke out in June.

Foreign NGOs are already heavily restricted in China, and have previously received sharp rebukes for reporting on rights issues in the country, including the mass detention of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

The U.S.-headquartered NGOs targeted by Beijing include the National Endowment for Democracy, the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, the International Republican Institute, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House.

"They shoulder some responsibility for the chaos in Hong Kong and they should be sanctioned and pay the price," Hua said.

 

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to get revenge

china should release the list of people in politics and media
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Me Chinese 

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I’ve got many trump criticisms, but China isn’t one of them.  

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Beijing was the worst place Ive ever lived. Fuck China 

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Balls Mahoney -

Fuck China. 

It's the US sailors and jarheads that are losing out

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Fuck China. They are an oppressive authoritarian state that impressions millions of innocent people for being minorities. 

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Fuck China. They are an oppressive authoritarian state that impressions millions of innocent people for being minorities. 

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I’ve got many trump criticisms, but China isn’t one of them.  

Agreed, he did the right thing.

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Balls Mahoney -
Darth Potato -

I’ve got many trump criticisms, but China isn’t one of them.  

Agreed, he did the right thing.

I agree I was very happy he went forward with that bill, but I doubt he will do anything to enforce it. I feel like this was a negotiating tactic for him in the greater context of his Trade War, and I think he's just trying to put more pressure on Xi by coupling a highly unpopular (globally) political issue with China's economic future via the threat of sanctions.

Hopefully, I'm wrong and this has teeth, but Trump's history has shown zero interest in human rights, between the Kurds or Kashoggi to give two examples.

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Fuck China. They are an oppressive authoritarian state that impressions millions of innocent people for being minorities. 

They quite literally vivisect living muslims to remove their useful organs to sell to other Chinese. The UN tribunal discussion of removing retinas from muslims families was terrifying and immediately reminded me of the Falun Ghong (sp?) crises from the late 90s / early 2000s, when they started rounding, dissecting, and executing them en mass to bolster the organ black market...

China is pure evil.

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Hong Kong will slowly escalate into a Tianemen Square situation, except this time it will be filmed. If anyone has ever read up on how they treated those student protesters... They didn't just execute them, they literally ground them into slush and dumped the human paste into sewers. Hong Kong was a beautiful financial powerhouse and it will be reduced to a shell of itself, completely broken and on the way to being ethnically replaced with Han Chinese ala Tibet model.

 

Let's hope international pressure can at least make a real show as we're basically facing another Hitler. I mean for as much as Trump gets called Hitler, we currently have a major world superpower that has death camps for reeducation, slave labor, and organ harvesting. I mean China is re-writing history to seize control over Asia, and now that they've become a full authoritarian dictatorship with privatized markets that have global reach they've become pretty similar to the Nazis. OG seems to forget but "National Socialists" were actually fascists and quite literally coined the term, "privatization," for the sweeping sell-offs of state assets to private industries -- it was a key differentiating factor between commies and fascists IIRC my high school history.